The twenty most over-done and over-played things in Spidey-comics!

[Jim Thompson]

you've created an argument and then refuted it.

congrats?

I'm probably going to regret asking this, but how exactly did you draw that conclusion from what I'd written?

[Ben Smith]

I'm probably going to regret asking this, but how exactly did you draw that conclusion from what I'd written?

at no point was the basis of my point about him not having challenging relationships after the marriage. you took an incidental part of the statement I made, created an argument, and refuted it.

again, congrats.

[Jim Thompson]

at no point was the basis of my point about him not having challenging relationships after the marriage. you took an incidental part of the statement I made, created an argument, and refuted it.

again, congrats.

Okay, what was the point you were attempting to make?

[Ben Smith]

Okay, what was the point you were attempting to make?

it doesn't really matter. you'll just pick the opposing side. that's what you do.

[Jim Thompson]

it doesn't really matter. you'll just pick the opposing side. that's what you do.

Sure. That's why I asked for clarification from you.

[Ben Smith]

Sure. That's why I asked for clarification from you.

it's only 7 pages, shouldn't be too hard to find. it's pretty clear if you're not trying to be obtuse

[Jim Thompson]

it's only 7 pages, shouldn't be too hard to find. it's pretty clear if you're not trying to be obtuse

No need to be impolite. I was just trying to get a sense of where you were coming from; clearly, I'm not getting it from your previous posts. If you can't explain it in a different way, I understand.

[Ben Smith]

No need to be impolite. I was just trying to get a sense of where you were coming from; clearly, I'm not getting it from your previous posts. If you can't explain it in a different way, I understand.

I said relationship problems was one of the core aspects of the character

you disagreed.

I went into more detail. Stan Lee purposefully and specifically created a character that was young and had problems, one aspect of which was relationship problems, which held true for the first 20 years of the character, until the marriage. that doesn't mean he needs to stay that way, or remained that way, just that the character was created with that as one of his hooks.

you then argued that the marriage didn't remove relationship problems from the equation. that's fine if you want to talk about that, but has nothing to do with my central point.

[Jim Thompson]

I said relationship problems was one of the core aspects of the character

you disagreed.

I went into more detail. Stan Lee purposefully and specifically created a character that was young and had problems, one aspect of which was relationship problems, which held true for the first 20 years of the character, until the marriage. that doesn't mean he needs to stay that way, or remained that way, just that the character was created with that as one of his hooks.

you then argued that the marriage didn't remove relationship problems from the equation. that's fine if you want to talk about that, but has nothing to do with my central point.

Ah -- you're talking about a specific kind of relationship, if I'm reading this right, that being multiple women one is having troubles with when one is single. Yeah, for sure that went away in large part with the marriage -- though Peter still found himself having issues with Mary Jane, with Felecia and some others, I thought.

That said, does that make Spider-Man significantly different than other characters in the MU, such that it is a core part of the character? I don't know, but at least I can see where you're coming from now. Thanks.