FF #3 *spoilers*

[Monty_Cristo]

Reasons why it doesn't make sense:

- Johnny/his family could die, hence the replacements.
- Darla could die. She's inexperienced and let me repeat, SHE COULD DIE. You wouldn't see a police officer give his or her civilian partner their uniform and say, "I need to visit my aunt in Belarus, keep the streets safe while I'm gone". And this is the biggy. It's such thoughtless disregard for her well-being that it borders on cruelty. Johnny seduces her with sick monkeys and teleporting when we know that's not what that Fantastic Four are about. The Foundation maybe, but the Four, these Four especially, are designed as a super hero team, and wouldn't you know it, their first bad guy is Doom + lackeys.

Darla could die. she's dating Johnny Storm; publically. Johnny's gone. Darla could die. the safest place for her is the Baxter Building.

- Reed knows they might very well die, hence the trip.
- No one knows her but Johnny.

everyone knows her. she's a public figure.

- That said, it's poor characterization that Johnny and Reed would treat these so lightly. Given that Johnny did disappear for a long time not long ago, and that Reed knows they all have cosmic cancer.

Reed didn't treat it lightly. he just realized that 3 very worthy individuals were chosen. She-Hulk and Ant-Man have very powerful friends. Medusa has the Inhuman royal family to lean on. if something does happen, at least one of the replacement team should be available to protect the children/shepherd them towards safety. Darla is perfectly qualified for that role; especially with the Thing suit.

Also Scott should be in his 40's now.

sounds right to me. of course, that's assuming that Cassie wasn't concieved when her parents were teens.

[Monty_Cristo]

More like Johnny's last hung-over, after thought. Seems like a moronic thing to do. Like letting your friend get married to a stripper when he's intoxicated in Vegas. Nor is it fair to Darla who has zero experience fighting super-villains, much less anyone like Doom. If Darla works out, it isn't going to be because Johnny actually thought this out.

if it works out, then she was fated to be where she is; like Johnny was when he was exposed to cosmic rays, despite not being qualified to be an astronaut.

Well, we obviously have very different families. When my family gives me a responsibility, blowing it off and throwing some last second band-aid on it to say I did it, instead of actually putting the effort into doing what I was supposed to, doesn't cut it, and earns me nothing but unending ribbing, if I'm lucky. If I'm not, and things go wrong, I'd feel much much worse about hurting my family, then I would about losing my job for screwing up.

Johnny Storm is better than you.

Yeah, I don't get Scott's decision, either. If I wanted to off Doom, I'd definitely look for a bigger gun.

you don't know Scott's reasons for re-recruiting her. for all you know, he doesn't trust the one-eyed Human Torch. maybe he wanted to see his reaction to Darla.

WTF? Entitlement???

yes, Namor fan. entitlement. your criticism is premature. it's almost as if you've never read a comic book before.

Darla is total outsider, and as far as we've seen, a noob. Having her return to the FF doesn't do squat, but make Johnny look like an idiot, and give Scott Lang a personal cheerleader / supporter / someone to do whatever he was doing in Times Square. Wyatt Wingfoot, long time friend and FF stalwart, does more to boost morale / strengthen resolve for the FF.

Wyatt is supposed to be sticking around for awhile. Scott has experienced something similar to the self-doubt Darla is feeling. he was very much a 5th wheel when he first started adventuring with the Fantastic Four. Ben Grimm treated him like crap. none of them expected that he could hold his own. and, if he had given in to his own self-doubt, it would have been a mistake. he ended up being integral to some of their missions; despite being underpowered. you guys are all focusing on what makes sense without acknowledging that, sometimes, humans don't act sensibly. Fraction's doing a character study on the replacement four. just let him tell his damn story.

[Monty_Cristo]

It's especially ridiculous coming from Scott Lang, considering his relatively inexperienced daughter got killed by Doom right in front him. You'd think, more than anyone else, he'd be hesitant to put a noob in harm's way.

but you'd be wrong. Cassie wasn't a noob. of all the Young Avengers, she probably had the most training (outside of Kate Bishop). they let her fight during Civil War. she graduated from Camp Hammond. and Scott didn't express one bit of doubt in her; when he discovered that she had become a superhero. it might be logical to expect him to be overprotective. he might even become overprotective in the future. but he has shown no hesitancy in recruiting Darla. and i don't think he's intending a fist fight with Doom.

While I didn't get that impression in the apartment, I did in the Times Square scene, which also doesn't do much for Scott's motives for wanting Darla to come back.

pure motives are boring. he already intends to use the classroom structure of the future foundation to think up a way to kill a man. as Scott said in the point one issue, "this is not a superhero story."

[protege]

FF stands for F-ing Fantastic!

That whole Darla/Lang situation was so odd but whatever cause everything is great!

Yeah, the whole thing between them is odd- I'm wondering if Scott is falling for Darla. I mean, he seems insistent that she remain on the team, when all she really has going for her in a Thing exoskeleton. And Frankly, I'm still not all that impressed by her.

[protege]

if it works out, then she was fated to be where she is; like Johnny was when he was exposed to cosmic rays, despite not being qualified to be an astronaut.



Johnny Storm is better than you.




you don't know Scott's reasons for re-recruiting her. for all you know, he doesn't trust the one-eyed Human Torch. maybe he wanted to see his reaction to Darla.




yes, Namor fan. entitlement. your criticism is premature. it's almost as if you've never read a comic book before.



Wyatt is supposed to be sticking around for awhile. Scott has experienced something similar to the self-doubt Darla is feeling. he was very much a 5th wheel when he first started adventuring with the Fantastic Four. Ben Grimm treated him like crap. none of them expected that he could hold his own. and, if he had given in to his own self-doubt, it would have been a mistake. he ended up being integral to some of their missions; despite being underpowered. you guys are all focusing on what makes sense without acknowledging that, sometimes, humans don't act sensibly. Fraction's doing a character study on the replacement four. just let him tell his damn story.

Say,, didn't Wyatt and Jen walters date at one point..?

[Monty_Cristo]

Say,, didn't Wyatt and Jen walters date at one point..?

they did. Wyatt's duties to his tribe got in the way.

[PeterCSM]

I bought the first issue of this book but none since and was wondering how much the characters (Leech, moloids, Bentley, Val, etc.) from Hickman's run played a part in the series?

[Runguy]

very little so far

[PeterCSM]

Too bad. Thanks for answering!

[Monty_Cristo]

I bought the first issue of this book but none since and was wondering how much the characters (Leech, moloids, Bentley, Val, etc.) from Hickman's run played a part in the series?

they've only just introduced the new teachers. the kids are going to help destroy Doom.

[PeterCSM]

they've only just introduced the new teachers. the kids are going to help destroy Doom.

Cool. I think I'll start checking this book once the students get reintegrated. I miss them terribly.