Supergirl #16 Preview

**super1man** · 01-22-2013, 09:51 PM

http://www.popmatters.com/pm/post/16...-supergirl-16/

Nothing much spoiled.

**AlfredIslas** · 01-22-2013, 10:18 PM

I feel bad for Kara. She hasn't caught a break since she landed on Earth. Girl needs some rest :(

**Desaad** · 01-23-2013, 07:34 AM

Man, this issue...I think we need a new writer here.

Some cool things in the Flash vs Supergirl fight, for sure, but that dialogue...! "Superman told me to get you out of here", "Superman told me to talk to you", "Superman told me to talk to you but if it idnd't work, to get you out of here by force!" "Superman told me to talk to you, then he said to get you out of here by force, THEN he said to use this device. Here's a bunch of information on how he got the device."

Ooof.

Asrar continues to amaze. H'El continues to underwhelm.

**Lexrules** · 01-23-2013, 07:51 AM

Ain't it nice how they turned Kara from a young woman who was true hero back in the Pre Crisis days into what we have finally arrived at today a whinny, confused, complete teen loser siding with the enemy and not knowing right from wrong.

From a true role model for young ladies into this. What the hell are people in charge of these books thinking today.

**Auguste Dupin** · 01-23-2013, 07:56 AM

Originally Posted by Lexrules

Ain't it nice how they turned Kara from a young woman who was true hero back in the Pre Crisis days into what we have finally arrived at today a whinny, confused, complete teen loser siding with the enemy and not knowing right from wrong.

From a true role model for young ladies into this. What the hell are people in charge of these books thinking today.

Wait, wasn't she exactly like that when she was reintroduced by Jeph Loeb? You know, in that story where she worked with Darkseid for a time?
At least, here, she has some kind of reason to believe what the guy said.

**Lexrules** · 01-23-2013, 08:05 AM

Originally Posted by Auguste Dupin

Wait, wasn't she exactly like that when she was reintroduced by Jeph Loeb? You know, in that story where she worked with Darkseid for a time?
At least, here, she has some kind of reason to believe what the guy said.

Yea, Wasn't a fan of that either. They almost got her right by the time Flashpoint happened but she still had a ways to go with that too. I understand they want her to grow from a girl into a woman but at least give her the common sense to be smart enough to know right from wrong.

She hasn't been 100% right IMO since the Crisis on Infinite Earths.

**Auguste Dupin** · 01-23-2013, 08:14 AM

Originally Posted by Lexrules

Yea, Wasn't a fan of that either. They almost got her right by the time Flashpoint happened but she still had a ways to go with that too. I understand they want her to grow from a girl into a woman but at least give her the common sense to be smart enough to know right from wrong.

She hasn't been 100% right IMO since the Crisis on Infinite Earths.

Honestly, I would be in her place, I would totally go with H'El's plan. I mean, she isn't aware of the whole "exploding the Solar System" thing, and last time she met "Kal El " (who was actually H'El in disguise), he beated the crap out of her, basically saying "know your place girl". Not to mention that all of this is happening while she's coping with the fact THE WORLD HAS SHE KNOWS IT HAS EXPLODED. I mean, put yourself in her place, if one day, I realized I was on another planet and that Earth, with every one I care about, has exploded, I would believe any idiot promissing me to make everything go back to the way it was, especially if, as far as I would know, doing so would have no bad consequence for the people of whatever planet I ended up on.
Honestly, for the most part, it felt relatively believable (as far as comics go). Not like that dumb Jeph Loeb story.

**Lexrules** · 01-23-2013, 08:30 AM

Originally Posted by Auguste Dupin

Honestly, I would be in her place, I would totally go with H'El's plan. I mean, she isn't aware of the whole "exploding the Solar System" thing, and last time she met "Kal El " (who was actually H'El in disguise), he beated the crap out of her, basically saying "know your place girl". Not to mention that all of this is happening while she's coping with the fact THE WORLD HAS SHE KNOWS IT HAS EXPLODED. I mean, put yourself in her place, if one day, I realized I was on another planet and that Earth, with every one I care about, has exploded, I would believe any idiot promissing me to make everything go back to the way it was, especially if, as far as I would know, doing so would have no bad consequence for the people of whatever planet I ended up on.
Honestly, for the most part, it felt relatively believable (as far as comics go). Not like that dumb Jeph Loeb story.

I don't know. I just think they are going about it in the wrong way much like everything related with Superman in the New 52. With all the mistrust from the population toward Superman and even more to come, To the whole In fighting between the Superman family itself, even things like Clark taking his glasses off and giving a Superman like speech in front of everyone at the Daily Planet it just is wrong on so many levels to me. And you already know about the suit.

**Auguste Dupin** · 01-23-2013, 08:36 AM

Originally Posted by Lexrules

I don't know. I just think they are going about it in the wrong way much like everything related with Superman in the New 52. With all the mistrust from the population toward Superman and even more to come, To the whole In fighting between the Superman family itself, even things like Clark taking his glasses off and giving a Superman like speech in front of everyone at the Daily Planet it just is wrong on so many levels to me. And you already know about the suit.

And you already know, for pretty much all these points, I actually disagree with you.
As for the suit.....yeah I know the T Shirt is much much cooler than anything Superman ever had in its entire existence, and I'm sad to see it put mostly into the past, but well.....c'est la vie.

**gwangung** · 01-23-2013, 08:47 AM

Originally Posted by Lexrules

Yea, Wasn't a fan of that either. They almost got her right by the time Flashpoint happened but she still had a ways to go with that too. I understand they want her to grow from a girl into a woman but at least give her the common sense to be smart enough to know right from wrong.

I think this is an unreasonable criticism, given the fact that she's been lied to and manipulated. No amount of "common sense" overcomes the lack of good information.

**AlfredIslas** · 01-23-2013, 08:58 AM

Kara woke up and had to fight people immediately with powers she didn't know she had. Then Superman came and she, understandably scared and confused, attacked him too. Then eventually she got kidnapped. World Killers (I may be getting this out of order) then came to Earth and she had to fight them off alone with her new powers. She then met some ghost girl (I forget details) and she eventually fights her dad and brings back her long lost brother. H'el comes screw everything around and then he gives her the ability to speak English. Okay, I definitely got things out of order but she's been through a lot. I'm not too happy with the decision to make her work for the enemy but Kara just hasn't been given any downtime.

**zryson** · 01-23-2013, 09:10 AM

Wow, just 16 issues in Supergirl is a horrible title. The artwork and storytelling (what there is) is awful. Honestly I feel DC have no idea what to do with the characters anymore. Its like they spend so much time on building up the necessary TBC that they have forgotten how to tell good stories. Its just more of the same really. Which is sad because Supergirl is a good character or rather was, but this new 52 isn't fulfilling its promise.

**Mr. Holmes** · 01-23-2013, 09:25 AM

Originally Posted by Desaad

Man, this issue...I think we need a new writer here.

Some cool things in the Flash vs Supergirl fight, for sure, but that dialogue...! "Superman told me to get you out of here", "Superman told me to talk to you", "Superman told me to talk to you but if it idnd't work, to get you out of here by force!" "Superman told me to talk to you, then he said to get you out of here by force, THEN he said to use this device. Here's a bunch of information on how he got the device."

Yeah I felt exactly the same, the "Superman tome me this, Superman told me that." I ended up skipping the long-winded dialogue and it ended up being a very very quick read.