The Following

[Ood Omega]

Anyone know if this show has been picked up for season 2?

There were some good elements, but also a few more WTF moments. (Like why wasn't the cultist who came into the station cuffed after she was supposedly searched? The Feds should certainly know by know that they can't afford to take anything any of them say at face value. And how is it that none of the Feds in the Sheriff's station noticed Hardy talking to two dozen reporters right on the doorstep of the building until they saw it on TV?)

The Feds in this show have been pretty incompetent in an almost unrealistic fashion but at this point I think it's kinda funny.

[Ood Omega]

Another thing I liked about this episode was the Mike Weston character stepping up after his hospitalization and really kickin' some ass.

[Ottmeister X]

Starting to feel like 24 but with just a bunch of stabbings.

[Simbob4000]

Anyone know if this show has been picked up for season 2?



The Feds in this show have been pretty incompetent in an almost unrealistic fashion but at this point I think it's kinda funny.

I'm pretty sure it was picked up for a second season a while ago.

[The Black Guardian]

You claimed Ryan learned about the killer's location by hanging around the station and listening to the cops talk. The only way that works is if the cops actually knew who and where the killer was. Otherwise listening to them wouldn't have provided him any useful info on how to find the guy. But if they knew who and where he was, then why didn't they go after him? And if they didn't know, then it still leaves unanswered the question of how some 17-year-old kid was able to find him when the cops couldn't.

I made no such claim. "Hanging around the station," yes. "Listening to cops talk?" No. There's all sorts of information that can be had that the cops wouldn't even know they're giving young Ryan, and not through talking.

Anyway, the penultimate episode for this season was much better than other recent episodes. However, one thing that perturbs me is: how does one slice someone's neck so thoroughly without being bathed in blood? Apparently Jacob really died of low blood pressure, not the near decapitation. And I am rather shocked that only 5 citizens died in the shelter.

[kalorama]

I made no such claim. "Hanging around the station," yes. "Listening to cops talk?" No. There's all sorts of information that can be had that the cops wouldn't even know they're giving young Ryan, and not through talking.

Regardless of whether he got the information from listening to them talk, hacking their computers, or telepathy, the fact remains that in order for him to get info on where to find the guy from the police, the police had to know who and where the guy was. Which still leaves the question of why they didn't move on him (or at least have him under surveillance) before some 17 year old kid found him and had time to force him to OD using multiple, self-inflicted injections of heroine.

[Volderon]

Starting to feel like 24 but with just a bunch of stabbings.

A poor mans 24 to be sure. What are they going to do for a second season? Same cult? I can see this getting silly very quickly if they don't have a creative plan here.

[Ottmeister X]

A poor mans 24 to be sure. What are they going to do for a second season? Same cult? I can see this getting silly very quickly if they don't have a creative plan here.

And we all know that 24 got pretty silly at times. I'll finish this season out--haven't watched last night's yet--due to Kevin Bacon being the star but I might pass on next season.

Man, I'm watching this show and catching up on Dexter and Son of Anarchy and been watching some cutthroat movies lately. Need less death and some happiness in my viewing habits. Disney here I come.

[The Black Guardian]

Regardless of whether he got the information from listening to them talk, hacking their computers, or telepathy, the fact remains that in order for him to get info on where to find the guy from the police, the police had to know who and where the guy was. Which still leaves the question of why they didn't move on him (or at least have him under surveillance) before some 17 year old kid found him and had time to force him to OD using multiple, self-inflicted injections of heroine.

No. The cops wouldn't even have to know who the guy was. It would be as simple as seeing a mug shot with the guys name and lying to cops that he doesn't know who killed his dad. Seriously, the number of ways he could get information from police files and gossip without the cops being any the wiser is uncountable.

[Ood Omega]

OK I did happen to enjoy the very end. The one thing I didn't get was spoilers:

Claire gets rescued and instead of being reunited with her son whom she has again been separated from, she spends the night with Ryan Hardy.

end of spoilers Whether it's a cliffhanger to be resolved in another season or the end of that particular story it works. They could do a season 2 with an all different cast starting a fresh story or revisit the season 1 ending. spoilers:

Did Joe Carroll really die? Do they ever find his body? What happens to the rest of the cult members? Do Ryan and Claire survive? Etc, Etc.

end of spoilers

[kalorama]

No. The cops wouldn't even have to know who the guy was. It would be as simple as seeing a mug shot with the guys name and lying to cops that he doesn't know who killed his dad. Seriously, the number of ways he could get information from police files and gossip without the cops being any the wiser is uncountable.

For starters, the mugshots police show witnesses don't have the suspects' names on them. They don't have any identifying information on them, precisely to avoid the possibility of someone taking the law into their own hands. And since it's not 1930 anymore, most police departments, particularly in big cities, keep their files on computer servers and databases. The only way he'd be able to find out the guy's name would be to log into the police database and pull up the guy's file, which he couldn't do without (A) a networked computer with access to the system and (B) a password, neither of which he could get access to without being seen. A teenage kid rifling through a cop's desk and trying to hack his computer in the middle of a busy precinct is going to attract attention, cops' son or not.

And Ryan wasn't the only witness. There were about half a dozen people in the store when his Dad was shot. It's not like they'd have just thrown their hands up after Ryan said he didn't see the guy. They would have shown it to the others who, unlike Ryan, saw the guy inside the store under strong lighting.

[kalorama]

I found the finale extremely unsatisfying and anticlimactic. Not sure what I was expecting, but it wasn't that. Is there even going to be a second season? If what we were told/shown at the end proves to be true, then it's hard to see how, unless they swap out most of the cast and make next season about (A) gathering up the rest of the cult and (B) payback.

[DebkoX]

What a finale....I didn't expect it however I had a horrible feeling Ryan wouldn't end up happy, that was brutal and I believe a 2nd series is more-or-less announced.

[The Black Guardian]

For starters, the mugshots police show witnesses don't have the suspects' names on them. They don't have any identifying information on them, precisely to avoid the possibility of someone taking the law into their own hands. And since it's not 1930 anymore, most police departments, particularly in big cities, keep their files on computer servers and databases. The only way he'd be able to find out the guy's name would be to log into the police database and pull up the guy's file, which he couldn't do without (A) a networked computer with access to the system and (B) a password, neither of which he could get access to without being seen. A teenage kid rifling through a cop's desk and trying to hack his computer in the middle of a busy precinct is going to attract attention, cops' son or not.

And Ryan wasn't the only witness. There were about half a dozen people in the store when his Dad was shot. It's not like they'd have just thrown their hands up after Ryan said he didn't see the guy. They would have shown it to the others who, unlike Ryan, saw the guy inside the store under strong lighting.

1. You don't seem to know what a mugshot is. I'm not talking about the pictures they show to people to identify perps.

2. That happened 30 or so years ago. There were barely any computers and databases. NO servers, whatsoever. Practically everything was hard copy. Technologically, things were a lot more like Barney Miller.

3. Just hanging around with his dad's pals would give him all the information he could want osmotically. They wouldn't even suspect him. They wouldn't even know they're feeding him info. And cops do let information like this slip. All. Of. The. Time.

I don't recall there being other people in the store.

Anyway, I'm surprised to see people weren't expecting what happened in the final episode. It was extremely predictable.