What are Storm's X-Men Going to Do About Namor's He-Man Women Haters New Avengers?

[Ingonyama]

The only threat to the X-men is Black Panther. BP's teammates will lose easily.

Black Panther? Feed him to Storm, she's taken him down twice before solo. Especially if she cheats, as we know she's willing to.

Psylocke can handle Black Bolt; I don't think he's particularly resistant to telepathy, and she IS particularly sneaky about it. Some illusions/misdirection followed by a telepathic paralysis of his vocal chords and a psi-knife to the skull = problem solved.

Jubilee can take out Richards, whether as a vamp or as a firecracker. He's smart, but a horrible combatant and probably nowhere near capable enough to catch her, fast as she is. Plus, the trolling would be BLISS.

I'm a little more worried about Dr. Strange or Iron Man. They have spells and technobabble, which means Deus Ex Machina powers. Although Rogue can, as I believe I mentioned before, drain off Strange's mystical knowledge and experience and use it for her own, KOing him in the process. Iron Man could go down under a shorting out from Kitty, followed up with a sufficiently powerful psychic attack from Rachel.

Beast is the only member unaccounted for. And Storm or Psylocke could probably win him over with a Power of Friendship speech. If that didn't work, combat-wise he's the biggest pushover on the New Avengers.

[Froggy]

Black Panther? Feed him to Storm, she's taken him down twice before solo. Especially if she cheats, as we know she's willing to.

Psylocke can handle Black Bolt; I don't think he's particularly resistant to telepathy, and she IS particularly sneaky about it. Some illusions/misdirection followed by a telepathic paralysis of his vocal chords and a psi-knife to the skull = problem solved.

Jubilee can take out Richards, whether as a vamp or as a firecracker. He's smart, but a horrible combatant and probably nowhere near capable enough to catch her, fast as she is. Plus, the trolling would be BLISS.

I'm a little more worried about Dr. Strange or Iron Man. They have spells and technobabble, which means Deus Ex Machina powers. Although Rogue can, as I believe I mentioned before, drain off Strange's mystical knowledge and experience and use it for her own, KOing him in the process. Iron Man could go down under a shorting out from Kitty, followed up with a sufficiently powerful psychic attack from Rachel.

Beast is the only member unaccounted for. And Storm or Psylocke could probably win him over with a Power of Friendship speech. If that didn't work, combat-wise he's the biggest pushover on the New Avengers.

Idk about the psylocke/black bolt thing or Jubilee vs Mr Fantastic. If Black Bolt can say what's up or something it might screw her up pretty good

most dangerous person on both sides is Rachel Grey imo, esp since she's beat THor like a rented mule

[renne]

idk man

after the way AVX went down, I don't think we can be so sure

the problem with judging it by AvX, i think, is that it was always written with a certain goal in mind, which was with the mutants ending up whipped.

disregarding that kind of writing characters to fit a certain role business, i think that on paper the x-men have a greater pool of skills. also don't underestimate the experience of these ladies with what life's dealt them when it comes to taking a bunch of dudes who, you have to admit, have lived a pretty privileged life (rich boy, two kings, a former surgeon, and reed richards).

[Victor Freeman]

Wait, are you really trying to tell me to let it go? You should spread the good news to your pals in that quagmire inappropriately referred to as an appreciation thread. The butt hurting and the trash talking the X-Board have clearly taken a toll over there, so this cleansing little pep talk should certainly help.

Who cares, Chris. I speak for myself. I'm not a messenger either. If you want to say it, say it there. I'm saying let go bro. I thought you would be happy with Storm direction. Doomwar happend in like 2009 or something--by a writer that BP fans hate more then you. That's what I'm saying. It's 2013 and you guys have the writer you guys wanted--correct? So why not let it go? Plus, questionable things have occurred after Doomwar. See Bendis Avengers for example.

About the X-board stuff, well I don't think I can sympathize with what you are saying--with threads supporting genocide. Nor will I generalize-- because I'm sure all posters here don't feel that way and I'm positive that many of them just don't care at all about that stuff or all this drama that comes with it.

I'm saying let go. Forward man.

[Victor Freeman]

Black Panther? Feed him to Storm, she's taken him down twice before solo. Especially if she cheats, as we know she's willing to.

Psylocke can handle Black Bolt; I don't think he's particularly resistant to telepathy, and she IS particularly sneaky about it. Some illusions/misdirection followed by a telepathic paralysis of his vocal chords and a psi-knife to the skull = problem solved.

Jubilee can take out Richards, whether as a vamp or as a firecracker. He's smart, but a horrible combatant and probably nowhere near capable enough to catch her, fast as she is. Plus, the trolling would be BLISS.

I'm a little more worried about Dr. Strange or Iron Man. They have spells and technobabble, which means Deus Ex Machina powers. Although Rogue can, as I believe I mentioned before, drain off Strange's mystical knowledge and experience and use it for her own, KOing him in the process. Iron Man could go down under a shorting out from Kitty, followed up with a sufficiently powerful psychic attack from Rachel.

Beast is the only member unaccounted for. And Storm or Psylocke could probably win him over with a Power of Friendship speech. If that didn't work, combat-wise he's the biggest pushover on the New Avengers.

Storm has never taken him down legit. Worlds Apart and AvX vs don't count. One he was possessed and the other he wasn't trying to fight her.

[Ingonyama]

Idk about the psylocke/black bolt thing or Jubilee vs Mr Fantastic. If Black Bolt can say what's up or something it might screw her up pretty good

Black Bolt actively restrains himself from speaking unless forced to. That renders his strongest power fairly useless unless he's willing to destroy everyone on the battlefield, allies and enemies alike. And by the time things got to the point where he could use his deadliest weapon, Betsy could already have switched it off.

Maybe Reed stands more of a chance against Jubilee than I assessed, but it's unlikely. He's a scientist, not trained in combat. His elasticity is his only weapon in a physical fight, and Jubilee can outmaneuver him...CERTAINLY as a vampire with enhanced speed, strength, etc., but even old-school Jubes had a knack for being agile and swift.

most dangerous person on both sides is Rachel Grey imo, esp since she's beat THor like a rented mule

I think Dr. Strange is the most dangerous, though Rachel has more raw power. There's a big difference between strength and skill, and skill is a serious edge in a fight. Rachel has skill of her own, but Strange is much more creative, which is another serious asset.

[Quinnhop]

I want them to "Six Girls, One Mouth" Black Panther in issue #1.

[Ingonyama]

Storm has never taken him down legit. Worlds Apart and AvX vs don't count. One he was possessed and the other he wasn't trying to fight her.

She was also not fighting at her full potential in either fight. Had she been, T'Challa would never have gotten close enough to touch her; she could have hurricaned him a mile up and a hundred out before he could do anything.

[Victor Freeman]

She was also not fighting at her full potential in either fight. Had she been, T'Challa would never have gotten close enough to touch her; she could have hurricaned him a mile up and a hundred out before he could do anything.

Teleportion? Here is the thing--these battles on forums are usually pissing matches between fans for fun. However, fights usually don't work out like how we are putting them. Still, he could get close and she could do what you just said. It depends on who's writing!

Peace.

[Deus ex Chris]

Who cares, Chris. I speak for myself. I'm not a messenger either. If you want to say it, say it there. I'm saying let go bro. I thought you would be happy with Storm direction. Doomwar happend in like 2009 or something--by a writer that BP fans hate more then you. That's what I'm saying. It's 2013 and you guys have the writer you guys wanted--correct? So why not let it go? Plus, questionable things have occurred after Doomwar. See Bendis Avengers for example.

About the X-board stuff, well I don't think I can sympathize with what you are saying--with threads supporting genocide. Nor will I generalize-- because I'm sure all posters here don't feel that way and I'm positive that many of them just don't care at all about that stuff or all this drama that comes with it.

I'm saying let go. Forward man.

Seriously? I posted an example of a portrayal of the character that I didn't care for in response to another poster. You're the one who latched on. I know Doom War is over, and it's not a story I give much thought. I just found it pertinent enough to use as a dig at Roland. Regardless, if you care so little about the topic, stop posting blocks of text on it. That high road is right in front of you, so move right along.

[Victor Freeman]

Seriously? I posted an example of a portrayal of the character that I didn't care for in response to another poster. You're the one who latched on. I know Doom War is over, and it's not a story I give much thought. I just found it pertinent enough to use as a dig at Roland. Regardless, if you care so little about the topic, stop posting blocks of text on it. That high road is right in front of you, so move right along.

That Sounds horrible man.

[Deus ex Chris]

That Sounds horrible man.

The high road is the other direction. I know it can be confusing when you're not used to it. Keep trying, friend.

[SKJoker]

You've been on this forum for five minutes, so I won't hold your ignorance against you. There is context beyond this thread, which is pretty easily deduced. I assume your skills of deduction are usually better than you've demonstrated here, since you were so quick to judge mine.

Funny, because you typed your post with a specific example, i.e.:

"Seriously, look at the frenzied, irrational response to a panel of the Panther saying 'anyone but him' in reference to who is assumed to be Wolverine. That indignation is seen as righteous, while the negative reaction to Storm's poor treatment is casually dismissed. Smells like sexism to me."

You would have been fine if you had just said "there are other examples, too." Alas, you pointed to that directly and said it smelled like sexism. And the example that you gave - which can be read as your original, unedited example, is absurd. In short, perhaps providing an example of your claims that holds water would be better received? I've no desire to parse posts about Storm looking for possible connections of sexism. All I have to work with is what you put out. In argument, the person making the forward claim (you) must provide the evidence for that claim.

[Seresecros]

Funny, because you typed your post with a specific example, i.e.:

"Seriously, look at the frenzied, irrational response to a panel of the Panther saying 'anyone but him' in reference to who is assumed to be Wolverine. That indignation is seen as righteous, while the negative reaction to Storm's poor treatment is casually dismissed. Smells like sexism to me."

You would have been fine if you had just said "there are other examples, too." Alas, you pointed to that directly and said it smelled like sexism. And the example that you gave - which can be read as your original, unedited example, is absurd. In short, perhaps providing an example of your claims that holds water would be better received? I've no desire to parse posts about Storm looking for possible connections of sexism. All I have to work with is what you put out. In argument, the person making the forward claim (you) must provide the evidence for that claim.

If one instance is sexist, then that should be enough for you. Saying you need 'other examples' is a ridiculous way to put off addressing the key issue: yourself.

If I were told that something I said were prejudiced, I wouldn't say "well name fifteen more examples and then I'll change my ways". I'd say "sorry".

I think you owe this board an apology, frankly.

[Deus ex Chris]

Funny, because you typed your post with a specific example, i.e.:

"Seriously, look at the frenzied, irrational response to a panel of the Panther saying 'anyone but him' in reference to who is assumed to be Wolverine. That indignation is seen as righteous, while the negative reaction to Storm's poor treatment is casually dismissed. Smells like sexism to me."

You would have been fine if you had just said "there are other examples, too." Alas, you pointed to that directly and said it smelled like sexism. And the example that you gave - which can be read as your original, unedited example, is absurd. In short, perhaps providing an example of your claims that holds water would be better received? I've no desire to parse posts about Storm looking for possible connections of sexism. All I have to work with is what you put out. In argument, the person making the forward claim (you) must provide the evidence for that claim.

I'll play along, since you're new. Your examples can be found in the Black Panther Appreciation Thread, if you're that invested. One blatant example I'll give you was the habit of referring to Storm as "Whororo" and Wolverine's jump off based on no context beyond a cover of the two kissing. This continued until a moderator forced those particular posters to stop. Those nicknames were pretty telling to me.

Also, saying it smells like sexism isn't the same as saying it is sexism. One is a direct accusation. The other suggests its presence. I hope you can understand the difference. Let me know if further expłanation is required.