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[ImmortalIronFist]

I wasn't aware that there even were people who liked Armstrong, post, say, 2004.

Fascinating.

Could give 2 shits about cycling, but Livestrong is important to me personally, and nothing will change the gratitude I feel for him starting it.

[jlmoor]

No, you're not really missing anything in another book. It's all pretty much explained or rationalized in New Avengers.

just checking. thx

[bebopeva88]

watch the last ep of 7, and give the christmas ep a shot. If you like clara (and have a good memory) you'll dig it. If not you'll know.

it's all about closure.

I don't think you will particularily like the last ep of 6, (I did ), but you'll understand where the xmas ep is picking up from.

I like Clara, a lot. But I could see some people really not. both as a reaction to Amy, and she just has a very strong personality.

I saw the final ep. of S6, and didn't much like it, though it was an improvement over most of the rest of the season, IIRC.

I haven't seen the Christmas ep.

[Lady_Alternate]

digital comics are okay, but it will be a long ass time before I'm willing to get anything solely digital. They are good for a test out. toss me a code to see if I like the book, then i'm more likely to check it out. But, the file sizes are MASSIVE, and you'd have to clean out your collection a lot. I could not fit 1/100th of my collection on any mobile device i could reasonable afford, and they would devour my storage. Streming is not the best option either (if cloud based storage get involved). I don't want to have to be connected, with fast enough internet, adn worry about overages to read a book. I think prose books will go away before comics, and that is a long way off as well. digital comics are not a good solution for a lot of collectors.

mostly, I just like the way trades look on my bookshelf

The way that digital distribution works is a little differently to how you're envisioning it. Essentially, you're buying a license to access and read the book, rather than purchasing the book itself. The intention is never to walk around with all of your collection about your person, rather it's to download what you want to read at any one time. The file sizes are much more compact that you seem to think - I've got a 16gb Nexus 7, and presently I've got a little over fifty issues downloaded at the moment and it's not even taking up a fifth of the available local storage space.

I just amend what I have available when I've got access to a local network - be that at home or anywhere else.

I don't see that happening; the way the industry is structured is such that digital will continue to be an increasingly large complement to print, but wholly replacing print would effectively cripple the foundation upon which the industry sits upon -- Diamond/the direct market/retailers, etc.

For something that by all accounts, makes up for around 2% of the total market share, to grow so exponentially in the span of 2-3 years to the point where the Big 2 are doing some of their mainstream books as digital only offerings would be nigh-unthinkable.

There's a contingent of the fanbase that embraces and is interesting in the digital aspect(s) and possibilities for the medium, but there's a much, much larger portion of the fanbase that has no intention whatsoever of reading comics in any way other than print, and the market will always cater to that.

We'll see, but with the rise of tablet computers it becomes ever more likely as time progresses. And, from the people I've spoken to when researching the (now-stalled) article on the Diamond figures and digital distribution, that 2% total market share is something of a severe underestimate.

[bebopeva88]

Could give 2 shits about cycling, but Livestrong is important to me personally, and nothing will change the gratitude I feel for him starting it.

Fu$# that Adrian Veidt guy, but damn his perfumes smell good!

NOSTALGIAAAAAAAAAAAA

"Oh, how the ghost of you clings"

[ImmortalIronFist]

Fu$# that Adrian Veidt guy, but damn his perfumes smell good!

NOSTALGIAAAAAAAAAAAA

...I feel like there's some comparison in here I'm not getting because it's been so long since I read Watchmen.

[Green Griffin]

Just got DMC.

I like it so far.

[bebopeva88]

We'll see, but with the rise of tablet computers it becomes ever more likely as time progresses. And, from the people I've spoken to when researching the (now-stalled) article on the Diamond figures and digital distribution, that 2% total market share is something of a severe underestimate.

The bulk of the potential for digital growth lies with new(er) readers (A); I think there's a ceiling that will be reached as far as converting the hardcore readers into digital only ones, in that the majority will forever be averse to it (B). I don't see the growth seen from (A) overtaking the comparatively steady, entrenched (B) any time soon, if ever, which is why I only see digital as a complement (and eventually a significant one) to print, rather than the future standard.

[jlmoor]

The way that digital distribution works is a little differently to how you're envisioning it. Essentially, you're buying a license to access and read the book, rather than purchasing the book itself. The intention is never to walk around with all of your collection about your person, rather it's to download what you want to read at any one time. The file sizes are much more compact that you seem to think - I've got a 16gb Nexus 7, and presently I've got a little over fifty issues downloaded at the moment and it's not even taking up a fifth of the available local storage space.

I just amend what I have available when I've got access to a local network - be that at home or anywhere else.



We'll see, but with the rise of tablet computers it becomes ever more likely as time progresses. And, from the people I've spoken to when researching the (now-stalled) article on the Diamond figures and digital distribution, that 2% total market share is something of a severe underestimate.

my first post was too damn long. nobody has that kind of time. Basically, i have both. I prefer print. the digital is cumbersome to me, i trade read, and those things are like a gig. I get 12ish trades a month, and right now, they dno't have same day release for enough titles to justify single issue either. i'm sure for some folks it's a great solution. But if DC ever said they only way to read batman was digitally, i'd drop all DC titles out of spite. it cripples the brick and mortor stores, and makes it harder for new readers who don't want to or have a digital alternative.

also, having to re-download all of your stuff every time they update the app is a pain in the ass.

[Lady_Alternate]

The bulk of the potential for digital growth lies with new(er) readers (A); I think there's a ceiling that will be reached as far as converting the hardcore readers into digital only ones, in that the majority will forever be averse to it (B). I don't see the growth seen from (A) overtaking the comparatively steady, entrenched (B) any time soon, if ever, which is why I only see digital as a complement (and eventually a significant one) to print, rather than the future standard.

I (and I'm not alone, I've found) see the tablet revolution as being as big a leap forward for comics as iTunes was for music distribution. However, with the comics market being much smaller than the music retail market, while it took a decade for the high street music retailers to fold and for digital distribution to become extremely prevalent, the prediction is that it will happen in a shorter time period.

While, yes, there will always be an element that would be willing and prefer to buy physical comics from an LCS, it may just eventually become financially unviable for the publishers to continue to cater to them.


EDIT - jlmoor - Marvel, DC, Image, Boom!, IDW and in fact just about everyone is same day digital now, for all titles. DC's digital catalogue is even available from 00:00 EST on a Tuesday night / Wednesday morning.

[Lady_Alternate]

i trade read, and those things are like a gig.

I just had to double check this, and unless there's a huge file size difference between iOS (you've got an iPad, right?) and Android I can't account for it.

Atomic Robo Vol. 5 - Deadly Art Of Science is 118 pages long, which would seem to be quite typical for a trade, is only 50mb.



...shit, it's 5 AM.

[Songbird/Diamondback]

So FF is taking place on New Years Eve. Huh.

[1derer]

Could give 2 shits about cycling, but Livestrong is important to me personally, and nothing will change the gratitude I feel for him starting it.

I'm always curious when I hear people talk up Livestrong as being a worthwhile charity...

I (and I'm not alone, I've found) see the tablet revolution as being as big a leap forward for comics as iTunes was for music distribution. However, with the comics market being much smaller than the music retail market, while it took a decade for the high street music retailers to fold and for digital distribution to become extremely prevalent, the prediction is that it will happen in a shorter time period.

While, yes, there will always be an element that would be willing and prefer to buy physical comics from an LCS, it may just eventually become financially unviable for the publishers to continue to cater to them.


EDIT - jlmoor - Marvel, DC, Image, Boom!, IDW and in fact just about everyone is same day digital now. DC's digital catalogue is even available from 00:00 EST on a Tuesday night / Wednesday morning.

I agree with this. The potential for selling back issues is particularly high. Last night (Wednesday) Uncanny X-Force, a book that is finished, held all 25 spots on Marvel's "top digital comics" chart. Tonight it still holds 16/25 positions on the chart. People are clearly buying into digital.

As old readers become more acclimatized with this method of buying, we'll see increasing numbers switch over due to simple convenience. At the same time, many new readers will only know comics as a digital product, just as many music consumers have no involvement with physical albums anymore. It's definitely a trend which will continue.

I doubt we'll ever see the disappearance of physical comics totally – they'll be produced for purposes of taste, just as vinyl is today – but we'll definitely see a shift.

[1derer]

This thread got really quiet all of a sudden after being super busy... weird.

[Songbird/Diamondback]

This thread got really quiet all of a sudden after being super busy... weird.

I'm doodling. That's why!

P.S. Archer was amazing tonight.