Luke Skywalker vs Leia, Chewbacca, and Han Solo

**MichaelChen** · 01-17-2013, 03:37 AM

Empire Strikes Back version of all. Post Yoda training. Who wins?

**Scurlogg_Hawkk** · 01-17-2013, 04:02 AM

Luke Skywalker !?!? jedi training and all .Lightsaber

**ChristmasFanatic** · 01-17-2013, 04:33 AM

Wont Leia just betray the two dorks?

**MichaelChen** · 01-17-2013, 04:50 AM

Just to clarify, this is bloodlusted, and the trio have their ranged weapons, which is, irrc, energy-pistols in Leia and Han's case, and a kind of rifle with prongs on the side for Chewbacca.

**Sharpandpointies** · 01-17-2013, 04:58 AM

I can safely say it's called a 'bowcaster'. :)

**SuperCooper** · 01-17-2013, 05:45 AM

"I thought they smelled bad on the ins--gahk!"
"Help me Obi-Wan Ke--aiieee!"
"Arooouho--whump!"

And so on.

**Powerboy** · 01-17-2013, 11:18 AM

Originally Posted by MichaelChen

Empire Strikes Back version of all. Post Yoda training. Who wins?

Did Luke have any feats of parrying blaster fire at that point?

**Siriel** · 01-17-2013, 11:21 AM

Unless I'm misremembering, Luke had feats of blocking a little robot flying around him and zapping him, while blindfolded, in the first movie.

The others are not going to win this.

**Iron_twister** · 01-17-2013, 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by Siriel

Unless I'm misremembering, Luke had feats of blocking a little robot flying around him and zapping him, while blindfolded, in the first movie.

The others are not going to win this.

Yeah, Luke did this while studying under Ben, which proves to be vital for his shot at the Death Star as he rely on his feelings of the Force rather than a targeting computer (which proves to be somewhat unreliable) in his very first battle as a pilot.

Course, he's facing three people (with two being accurate gunslingers as far as I can tell) armed with deadly weapons, not training bolts.

But some thought is put in and in Empires, Luke may lack proper teaching but is shown to be much better at the Force than he was at the beginning (the force pulling his lightsaber is kind of an improvement next his heighten senses in the first film) and his use with the lightsaber has gotten to a point he can use for combat purposes. He also became kind of badass as he single handily takes out an AT-AT aka Empire Death Tank that plows through most defenses and war machines with just a grappling gun, his lightsaber, and a grenade. Yoda's training has also helped him improved his abilities to a point he wasn't a joke against Vader in their duel, though Vader clearly outclasses him overall. If anything, Empires managed to make Luke a much deadlier foe to a small extent, where Return of the Jedi has finally cemented his skills.

So needless to say, he does have good chances.

Course, all Han showed in Empires is practically his rather amazing piloting skills as he evaded a massive Imperial Fleet hounding his ass in space while using a modified yet half assed repaired freighter. He's pretty much a rather noticeable target but yet managed to give captains and various pilots, of a large military force that on a good day can damn near curb stomp their oppositions, the slip to a point they give pretty much resort to Bounty Hunters to get the job done.

...Impressive indeed for Han, being badass just for hiding and running away.

**big_adventure** · 01-17-2013, 11:57 AM

Originally Posted by Siriel

Unless I'm misremembering, Luke had feats of blocking a little robot flying around him and zapping him, while blindfolded, in the first movie.

The others are not going to win this.

You are not...those feats exist.

He has blaster-block feats throughout the third film (specifically in the sand barge fight and in the forest with the hover cycles) - and he had had no more training, so it's not like he'd improved his skills in the interim.

I don't see why we wouldn't give that ability to fully-trained Luke.

**BitVyper** · 01-17-2013, 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by big_adventure

You are not...those feats exist.

He has blaster-block feats throughout the third film (specifically in the sand barge fight and in the forest with the hover cycles) - and he had had no more training, so it's not like he'd improved his skills in the interim.

He had more training. He was also clearly depicted as having grown a great deal powerwise between the films. It's demonstrated early in the film (also that he returned to Dagobah to finish his training IIRC), but if you want a really clear reference point: He went from struggling with Darth Vader to forcing Darth Vader onto the defensive and then beating him.

Anyway, it doesn't really matter 'cause the OP specified a version, so he's not getting the feats from Jedi.

**Iron_twister** · 01-17-2013, 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by big_adventure

You are not...those feats exist.

He has blaster-block feats throughout the third film (specifically in the sand barge fight and in the forest with the hover cycles) - and he had had no more training, so it's not like he'd improved his skills in the interim.

I don't see why we wouldn't give that ability to fully-trained Luke.

I'm mostly thinking in Empires, Luke got what he needed...It's just that he hadn't really adjust to it yet and rushed in combat. Kind of like showing up in the day of a test with only a day of cramming and you decided to bring all your notes in a last minute skim reading in hopes of winging it sort of deal. Luke does have the raw talent to use them but compared to facing a guy who had years to adjust himself...Yeah, Luke had little chance.

In between Empires and Jedi, I'd say Luke finally took the time and patience to look over his notes and made sure he didn't get himself in another situation like that...And it paid off.

BitVyper also gives a good point.