Superman April 2013 Solicits

[Auguste Dupin]

Yeah and he should have been ashamed of it and not mentioned it later. He should have tried his best to forget about it.



If quitting was a natural extension then Lobdell wouldn't have felt the need to put the text part of that scene in. It looked like the thing that set him off.



Stopping a nuke is so ineffectual.

-So, when you screw up, you just forget it all happen and act as if you never did? Because that sounds a bit.....irresponsible.

- No, it's just two different plots. Plot one: Lois is moving with his new boyfriend and Clark isn't that happy about it. Plot two: Morgan Edge goes all "my job is what I tell you it is, stop trying to find "stories" or whatever you call it", and Clark decides that enough is enough and quits. Whatever you think about plot one, that doesn't mean that plot two is related just because it happened in the following pages. Plot one may have influenced his mood when plot two happened but that's it, and Clark has, like, two pages monologuing about why he left his job.

-Well, coming from Superman, almost dying when stopping one single nuke is clearly under his usual capacities, yes. Now, it's an older weaker Superman who has basically given up fighting the good fight, so there's that.

[Mr. Holmes]

Stopping a nuke is so ineffectual.

I'm not talking about physical capabilities, I'm talking about his role as Reagan's lackey.

[Aquacatlungfish]

-So, when you screw up, you just forget it all happen and act as if you never did? Because that sounds a bit.....irresponsible.

He screwed up in private and nobody knew about it. If it was a lapse then he should have had some personal time out and decided not to do it, not to talk shit to someone completely innocent and alert Lois of it. Ignoring it seems like a better thing to do than the latter.

- No, it's just two different plots. Plot one: Lois is moving with his new boyfriend and Clark isn't that happy about it. Plot two: Morgan Edge goes all "my job is what I tell you it is, stop trying to find "stories" or whatever you call it", and Clark decides that enough is enough and quits. Whatever you think about plot one, that doesn't mean that plot two is related just because it happened in the following pages. Plot one may have influenced his mood when plot two happened but that's it, and Clark has, like, two pages monologuing about why he left his job.

I don't get what the point of plot one was when Lois and Clark fighting could have easily been a result of plot two.

[Auguste Dupin]

He screwed up in private and nobody knew about it. If it was a lapse then he should have had some personal time out and decided not to do it, not to talk shit to someone completely innocent and alert Lois of it. Ignoring it seems like a better thing to do than the latter.



I don't get what the point of plot one was when Lois and Clark fighting could have easily been a result of plot two.

-......What? Okay, what screw up are we talking about? Because he didn't mention he spyed her texts. Are you talking about the fact he talked about the fact he knew she was moving with her boyfriend?

-But the point isn't to make them fight (and they didn't). It's to move her out of the way. Lobdell makes things serious between Lois and her boyfriend while Clark is having something going on with Diana. Clark has been showed as pinning over Lois since the Perez run. The way I see it, Lobdell is trying to address it and to put some closure on the subject.

[Aquacatlungfish]

-......What? Okay, what screw up are we talking about? Because he didn't mention he spyed her texts. Are you talking about the fact he talked about the fact he knew she was moving with her boyfriend?

If we take Holmes logic, Superman had a lapse in judgement and read Lois' texts. He should have realised this was a bad thing to do. He can't apologise without telling her he's Superman so he should just forget about it and move on. Instead he uses that information to talk shit to her about having a social life. That's a bad thing to do. If you have a lapse in judgment you wouldn't use that lapse for your gain. He stalked her and used the information. I consider that a bad thing. Reading her texts is bad enough, not being ashamed enough to try and forget it is worse.

-But the point isn't to make them fight (and they didn't). It's to move her out of the way. Lobdell makes things serious between Lois and her boyfriend while Clark is having something going on with Diana. Clark has been showed as pinning over Lois since the Perez run. The way I see it, Lobdell is trying to address it and to put some closure on the subject.

I'm glad he's finally got over Lois but an argument over journalism would have done that well enough. Reading her texts is just creepy.

[Auguste Dupin]

If we take Holmes logic, Superman had a lapse in judgement and read Lois' texts. He should have realised this was a bad thing to do. He can't apologise without telling her he's Superman so he should just forget about it and move on. Instead he uses that information to talk shit to her about having a social life. That's a bad thing to do. If you have a lapse in judgment you wouldn't use that lapse for your gain. He stalked her and used the information. I consider that a bad thing. Reading her texts is bad enough, not being ashamed enough to try and forget it is worse.



I'm glad he's finally got over Lois but an argument over journalism would have done that well enough. Reading her texts is just creepy.

- Well, honestly, what he said wasn't about her having a social life. If you got back to the issue, he isn't reproaching her to be with the guy. What he says, as an answer to Lois telling him that they're best friends, is "As your best friend, I guess I expected you to tell me about you moving in". It's not about the social life, it's about "if I'm your best friend, as you proclaim, how come I'm completely unaware of what's going in your life?"
Besides, it's also clear that even then it's not deliberate. I mean, in the panel he said it, he also thinks "Man, I can't believe I just said that". He didn't do it for his gain, hell he didn't "gain" anything. His words came in before he thought this through, and while it doesn't make it a good thing, honestly, I can relate to the whole "said some shit you shouldn't have in the heat of an argument".

-Well, no, I mean, it's not about journalism ethic, it's about addressing a romantic subplot that was there before he got the gig. People don't "get over each other" because they don't agree on something work related, at least not where I live.
Besides, let's stop acting as if Lobdell invented that aspect of the character. Superman spies on people all the time. What do you think he's doing when he checks Lois's heartbeat to see if she's okay in Maggin's novels? How man time did he use his X ray vision to check what his friends were doing? How many time did he listen to some conversation they had with his superhearing? That's exactly what he does in the very first issue of that book.