This book has one of the strongest characters,but has been delivered in a less than adequate way,and yeah it bothers me to no end,but it is still good enough to have the great character carry the inadequate team on the book.
I am a loyal SB fan from 93 until they kill him,and keep him dead for good,but i dont think that will happen,even though it hasnt really been shown,i think DC knows he has potential beyind just another super legacy character.
Dont mess with the "S"
The portrayal of Lex was good but Lobdell was trying way too hard to make him seem like a genius. The whole issue was just one uninteresting decompressed conversation with a Superman that's kind of a twat and a really, really dumb Superboy. A massive waste of my time and money.
Lol like I said to each his (or her) own.
......I mean....I liked it...
Superman wasn't "a twat" he's just brash and not portrayed as a vanilla white bread. Superboy likewise is extremely intelligent under Lobdell, he's just out of his depth in this issue.
Yeah I'll echo everyone else. I really enjoyed Superman #15. I think Lobdell is doing some solid stuff and the art is to die for.
I'll be getting all these, with the exception of Superboy.
Don't mind that portrayal at all. I like him in Action a lot in fact. But Lobdell simply writes a Superdick.
Never read his Superboy so I can't judge that (do you have to read the Culling to understand it?).Superboy likewise is extremely intelligent under Lobdell, he's just out of his depth in this issue.
There has not been a single issue of his own book or Teen Titans in which, in my opinion, Superboy has been portrayed nor illustrated as good as he was in Superboy #15. Rocafort had no qualms drawing him to genuinely look like a boy, and he was written with a whimsy, almost carefree nature despite being smart enough to know he was in a sticky situation which I haven't seen since the Kessel days. And while he displayed a taste of attitude, it didn't overdo it. This all being admittedly odd since the same guy who wrote him here writes him regularly in Teen Titans. Yet there Lobdell seems to, at least to this point, try too hard to make him a badass loner. But his portrayal in Superman #15 which to me beats out "Grrr...I'm a weapon and angsty and why can't I just be normal" any day of the week. Here's hoping what he did with him in this issue catches on to the TT appearances.
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I actually quite like Superman being pushed to the edge, it can and has made some good stories (I don't mind For Tomorrow that much) but I dislike Superman spying on Lois for no good reason other than he's still got a crush. I'm glad he quit the Daily Planet but that scene was written terribly and it comes off as him just being pissed about Lois and coming up with a "fodder" argument on the spot. Lobdell works well on things like Red Hood but I don't think he's got a good voice for Superman. He got a good tone but poor characterisation of the main character. You can have a character with flaws and still make him likable but if you make his flaws too big he becomes unlikable. That's exactly what Superman is in the book, flawed and unlikable.
That's not the reason. He was pretty much in a frustrated attitude after talking to Perry and he made a lapse in decision making. It's not about being pushed to the edge, it's about not being perfect period.
I didn't get the impression it had anything to do with Lois. They had been building up to this kind of thing since the Perez/Jurgen runs (don't know if it was intentional, but the tention between him and Edge had been there from the start).'m glad he quit the Daily Planet but that scene was written terribly and it comes off as him just being pissed about Lois and coming up with a "fodder" argument on the spot.
Somehow I doubt the people complaining about his characterization here would accept any flaws in Superman.You can have a character with flaws and still make him likable but if you make his flaws too big he becomes unlikable. That's exactly what Superman is in the book, flawed and unlikable.
If it was a lapse he shouldn't have brought it up in the next issue.
Then what was the point of having that scene? I simply arguement would have done the job. Why not have Edge side with Lois and have that be the thing that made him wuit. I see no reason for him to read her texts. The argument they were having before he read he texts seemed to break their friendship if that was what he was intending.I didn't get the impression it had anything to do with Lois. They had been building up to this kind of thing since the Perez/Jurgen runs (don't know if it was intentional, but the tention between him and Edge had been there from the start).
I hate a flawed Superman so much I didn't have any problems with him giving in and working with the government in DKR.Somehow I doubt the people complaining about his characterization here would accept any flaws in Superman.
Defalco on Superboy has been pretty bad. The rest of the Superman books seem fine though.
Lapse or not, it still happened.
Not sure I understand what you're getting at. Clark had been reluctant to the idea of working for Edge and a major corporation since the first issue of the book, when Perez was writing it. Quitting the Planet was a pretty natural extension of that; I don't think it had much to do with Lois.Then what was the point of having that scene? I simply arguement would have done the job. Why not have Edge side with Lois and have that be the thing that made him wuit. I see no reason for him to read her texts. The argument they were having before he read he texts seemed to break their friendship if that was what he was intending.
Flawed as the DKR Superman might be, he was still way too bland and ineffectual for my tastes compared to the New 52 version.I hate a flawed Superman so much I didn't have any problems with him giving in and working with the government in DKR.
Yeah and he should have been ashamed of it and not mentioned it later. He should have tried his best to forget about it.
If quitting was a natural extension then Lobdell wouldn't have felt the need to put the text part of that scene in. It looked like the thing that set him off.Not sure I understand what you're getting at. Clark had been reluctant to the idea of working for Edge and a major corporation since the first issue of the book, when Perez was writing it. Quitting the Planet was a pretty natural extension of that; I don't think it had much to do with Lois.
Stopping a nuke is so ineffectual.Flawed as the DKR Superman might be, he was still way too bland and ineffectual for my tastes compared to the New 52 version.
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