I'm trying to be fair with this issue I really am and I really like Tomasi's take on the Joker but I pretty much couldn't stand the bulk of this issue which I blame on the overblown dialogue, Damian's characterization and several other issues I had with the book. I only picked up these last two issue because of the tie in and out of a vain hope that the writing had gotten better since I really wanted to like the book. Appears this is not to be so I'll bid adieu (again) to this title until a new creative team takes over. I don't care what tie in comes next.
Characters come and go, revamped and revisited. But as long as you enjoyed them, remember them and continue to appreciate them, then that character, your hero or heroine, will always exist.
I liked this issue just fine. I'm really starting to judge this book less harshly just by the fact that it feels like Batman and Robin from two years ago.
"Everything hs changed. ‘Dark’ entertainment now looks like hysterical, adolescent, ‘Zibarro’ crap." - Morrison, 2008.
I was never sold that Damian could be fooled so easily concerning bats being actual batman.
The fake out wasn't the least bit shocking, but I don't see how one could have a problem with Damian falling prey to it not only due to the given the circumstances bu also because he isn't aware of how common a trope that is in super hero comics so he has little reason to be skeptical.
The only giveaway is that Bruce is wearing a cheaper knockoff of his costume. No seamlines, no armor parts besides gloves.
Damian should have been able to detect that Batman's fighting style was wrong, though. But he probably chalked most of that up to the Joker toxin.
Also, you guys seem to forget that Damian is 10. He's a little monster, but he's still a kid with the same fears as a child. Stop casting him as a miniature Deathstroke.
It's certainly not the best comic I've ever read, but it's a solid issue. I specially love Gleason's portrayal of the Joker.
P.S: Am I the only one who's enjoying this book more than Snyder's one?
Batman and Robin has certainly been the most enjoyable of the tie ins to me (aside from Det 16 which I really loved for some reason). The story in this issue was more predictable than in the previous one but at least Joker looks like a disturbing mix of rotting flesh and creepy black holes.
Gleason is amazing, but I just don't care for the whole endlessly grotesque feel of this book. It's a horror book, a freak show, a gross out. It's fine once in a while - with the Flamingo, for instance - but I'd like some variety to the type response they are trying to illicit.
A change in writer would be very, VERY welcome. C'mon BQM!!
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I'm not saying that as a reader the twist should have been shocking, we've seen it a thousand times by now, but that doesn't mean that Damian's reaction wasn't believable and it was his reaction that was the point of the story not the fake out.
I loved B & R #15 but this issue just wasn't as good to me.
I liked that Damian was willing to sacrifice himself rather than kill his father. Once again he showed that Joker doesn't understand him. Still, even with the Joker venom, I think Damian should have been able to tell that Batman's fighting style was wrong.
Damain is thoroughly trained in the art of war and in different fighting styles. He has fought alongside his father and knows how he fights. Plus Damian had the presnece of mind to figure out how to get away. I would expect him to have the ability to identify the appearance and style of his father/mentor.