Solar (Valiant comics) vs Lucifer Morningstar

[Kirika]

Who wins this?

[Surtur]

What is Solar's best offensive power feat? Or best feat in general?

[Sharkerbob]

What is Solar's best offensive power feat? Or best feat in general?

Best feat is destroying and recreating the universe. This was a one-shot event, however, and I think involved special circumstances. He's the mos powerful hero of his universe, but he's not nearly on "multiversal blast" level, which Lucifer can tank.

[KJ Stewart]

While Solar MIGHT be able to put himself out of harm's way, due to his ability to exist away from reality, I'm pretty certain he doesn't have the power to hurt Lucifer. And nor does he have to durability to take an assault from Lucifer, should Lucifer actually attack him.

Absorbing a sun is nothing compared to the power Lucifer possesses, which I think is probably his best feat at his base level.

I must stress though, I don't fully understand Solar's who "exist away from reality thing", so a) I'm not sure it would actually put him out of harm's way and b) I'm not sure whether he'd be ringing himself out if he did it in Khazan.

[Surtur]

Well if he's actually not existing in reality then he couldn't possibly stay in the arena to do so right? Even so, any reason Lucifer couldn't follow him? Didn't he take Michael outside reality so he could explode?

[Sharkerbob]

Well if he's actually not existing in reality then he couldn't possibly stay in the arena to do so right? Even so, any reason Lucifer couldn't follow him? Didn't he take Michael outside reality so he could explode?

I recall Solar doing things like keeping his brain in another location which prevented psychics from tampering with it, but that's not going to be much help against Lucifer anyway.

[Surtur]

I recall Solar doing things like keeping his brain in another location which prevented psychics from tampering with it, but that's not going to be much help against Lucifer anyway.

Here is my big problem with that: the fact that he had to hide his brain at all just to protect it from psychics in the first place. Were these super awesome cosmic psychics? I'm expecting Phoenix level psychics, otherwise the guy looks like a punk for having to hide from them. Ok maybe not a punk, but definitely doesn't make him look strong.

[Sharkerbob]

Here is my big problem with that: the fact that he had to hide his brain at all just to protect it from psychics in the first place.

Solar is an energy being, not a psychic. The fact that he can do something like that to defend against psychics at all speaks a lot towards the creativity of his powers.

Were these super awesome cosmic psychics? I'm expecting Phoenix level psychics, otherwise the guy looks like a punk for having to hide from them. Ok maybe not a punk, but definitely doesn't make him look strong.

Sting, the second (if not the) most powerful psychic on the entire planet, was the one to point out how he can't even properly read his mind because "it's like his mind is somewhere else." Sting is roughly Jean Grey level, I'd say. Sting is also acknowledged in the Unity crossover to be the second most powerful hero after Solar himself.

Honestly, Solar kind of barely qualifies as a cosmic, his greatest feats are cosmic level, but require extreme circumstances or outside assistance to pull off. Otherwise, I wouldn't give him too good of odds against Silver Surfer.