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    Here are some JLI suggestions:

    JLI Volume 6

    JLI Volume 3

    I Can't Believe It's Not The Justice League


    Formerly Known As The Justice League


    There are others you can take from there if you like that style. Just be aware that the last two are totally for laughs, all about the funny relationships between the heroes, and their crazy personalities and the situations they find themselves in, while the others can vary from straight drama to comedy, hitting other points in between.
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    Oh, and Alan Moore & Gene Ha's Top 10, which revolves around Neopolis: a city wholly populated with superheroes, aliens, and other such superhuman beings. In particular, it focuses on the eternally frustrated Neopolis PD trying to keep order. It's overall, a fairly lighter work than some of Moore's more famous works like Watchmen, Miracleman, or From Hell (though it has it's moments). The cases the Neopolis PD typically deals with are things such as an escaped telepathic lunatic who believes he's Santa Claus, or the "ascend-by shooting" of Baldur The Beautiful at the local deity-catering watering hole 'Godz.' Stuff like that.

    Moore's full plans for the book will probably remain unfullfilled, though the later spin-off Smax (drawn by Zander Cannon) wrapped up at least one of the more noticeable dangling plots from 10 (ie, Officer Jaafs "Smax" Macksun going back to his magical home-realm to attend his Uncle's funeral). Smax has less to do with super-stuff than the prior series; it's more kind of a piss-take of quest-based sword & sorcery stories.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayra View Post
    There's also a 2010-2011 version and a New DC 52 version. You mentionned the original (1999-2009): Are the other two versions also good, or are they a big step behind the original one? It's mostly as curiosity since a 70 issue run at 2$ each on Comixology is a bit intimidating monetary-wise so I tend to prefer shorter finished runs or series that have cheaper collected series (Like those that offer volumes or storyline compilations for a bit cheaper). The 2010-2011 version has only 15 issues instead, so it's less of an investment IF they are also good... But if they don't fit my criteria as well and that the originals are as entertaining as Power Girl, then I definitively don't mind spending the 140$. Well, only way to know is to buy a few issues and see from there :)
    I wouldn't recommend the 2nd series even though its by the same writer. It has a lot of problems with writing and art and it would be a waste of money for you. The 1st series is near perfect.

    There is also the previous iteration of Batgirl before Stephanie Brown i.e Cassandra Cain. Cass was a ninja trained from birth to be the perfect assassin. But she ran away when she was 8 and saved Commisioner Gordon from being shot. Oracle and Batman took her in and she became Batgirl. You might like this too.

    http://www.comixology.com/Batgirl-20...cs-series/5623

    There is also a short but sweet Power Girl story by Amanda Conner in Wonder Woman #600.

    You might also like the 16-issue Zatanna series by the writer of Batman the Animated Series.

    http://www.readdcentertainment.com/Z...cs-series/4221

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    I'll second Simone's first run on Birds of Prey, and add Terry Moore's Strangers in Paradise (my favorite comic) - great read and the pocket books are a great value ( may be a little hard to find but worth the effort).

    Happy reading!
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    I second the Batgirl series by Bryan Q Miller, as well as Gail Simone's Birds of Prey series, although, in my opinion, you should go from issue 56 to 91. I personally didn't care for much of the series after that.



    Quote Originally Posted by The Man From Room X View Post

    You might also like the 16-issue Zatanna series by the writer of Batman the Animated Series.

    http://www.readdcentertainment.com/Z...cs-series/4221

    This recommendation is a good one, also. Female lead, not drenched in too much continuity, etc....

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    I want to give you guys a huge "Thank you" although my bank account probably won't be as happy.

    Before trying to hunt down rare stuff or buying huge books blindly, I figured I'd play it safe and buy the first issue on Comixology of a few of the recommendation to see what interest me enough to actually purchase the rest. I checked the first issues of Batgirl 2009-2011, Zatanna and Birds of Prey (Well, #56) so far and... It's all of them. Birds of Prey interested me the most of those three, but all three were very interesting and fit my tastes.

    So I have to say that you guys are spot-on about your recommendations, thank you! I definitively can't go and buy everything today, but I'm bookmarking this thread and I'll definitively be checking out all the other recommendations when time and finances allow. Some will probably have priority over others (Ame-Comi girls sounds pretty good since it's the same authors and that I don't mind fanservice as long as it's not way overblown, and that Hellcat comic sounds awesome), but I'll give at least a look-see to everything since the recommendations I checked so far are just spot-on. Thank you again!

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    Not a DC book, but I bet you would enjoy Dan Slott's run on Marvel's She-Hulk.

    Just make sure to not get any trades after Slott left. The next writer turned it into just another moody violent book.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayra View Post
    I want to give you guys a huge "Thank you" although my bank account probably won't be as happy.

    Before trying to hunt down rare stuff or buying huge books blindly, I figured I'd play it safe and buy the first issue on Comixology of a few of the recommendation to see what interest me enough to actually purchase the rest. I checked the first issues of Batgirl 2009-2011, Zatanna and Birds of Prey (Well, #56) so far and... It's all of them. Birds of Prey interested me the most of those three, but all three were very interesting and fit my tastes.
    No worries! Glad to hear you liked the first issue of Batgirl, since it's actually probably one of the weaker arcs; still good, but the book improves significantly, I think, in the second and third arcs. It's been years since I read BoP, but I seem to recall liking those issues as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayra View Post
    Awesome!

    Thank you very much for all the recommendations! That's honestly quite a bit more than I was expecting but I certainly won't be complaining! It's better to have too many choices rather than having too few.

    I'll probably start with Batgirl 2009-2011 (It's not too large or overwhelming) and move to the others suggestions afterward but I have a few questions regarding Birds of Prey.

    There's also a 2010-2011 version and a New DC 52 version. You mentionned the original (1999-2009): Are the other two versions also good, or are they a big step behind the original one? It's mostly as curiosity since a 70 issue run at 2$ each on Comixology is a bit intimidating monetary-wise so I tend to prefer shorter finished runs or series that have cheaper collected series (Like those that offer volumes or storyline compilations for a bit cheaper). The 2010-2011 version has only 15 issues instead, so it's less of an investment IF they are also good... But if they don't fit my criteria as well and that the originals are as entertaining as Power Girl, then I definitively don't mind spending the 140$. Well, only way to know is to buy a few issues and see from there :)

    For Sojourn and Sisterhood of Steel, unfortunately the closest "local" comic book is about 3 hours drive away... I'll be keeping my eyes open, though.

    For the Justice League stuff, *The bonus here is that the old trades, not the new stuff, feature the origins of PG's cat, the flowering of the Blue and Gold and Fire and Ice friendships...* Which ones would that be? There's a lot of Justice League out there.

    Thanks again for the help, it's very welcome!
    I'll try to answer your question regarding Birds of Prey.

    The 2010-2011 version, also referred to as v. 2, was also written by Gail Simone, but it was a troubled run. I speculate that she was cleaning up some things from her first run that never came about due to various reasons (mainly editorial mandates and company-wide events), but for whatever reason, the team came off looking very bad. There was also a lack of the humor that was in the earlier run.

    The new-52 version has just changed writer, so it remains to see what the new writer Christy Marx will make of what she has inherited and where she will take it. I think the previous writer can write, but I didn't like what he did with a team that is, in most people's minds, defined by the relationship of the characters to one another. While the composition of the team has always been focused on providing the skills necessary to carry out the mission, the team in v. 1 grew into a group of friends who were united to do good; the current team has never evolved beyond the mission. Also, it was intentionally confusing and left the characters reacting to events rather than controlling events.

    I recommend getting v. 1, and keeping an eye on Marx's current run. Leave the rest alone.
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    Batgirl, Wonder Woman, Worlds' Finest, My Little Pony, Sword of Sorcery, The Flash, Animal Man, Birds of Prey, Lone Ranger

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayra View Post
    And here's some unimportant personal comic history for a bit more unnecessary information:
    I'm quite new to comics in general. I read a lot of regular books and I did have some manga, but I never had dwelled in comics beside reading a few things a friend had like a Red and Blue dual Superman thing (!?!?) and a few random spiderman comics which I all found either incomprehensible, stupid or just boring.

    My first comic I purchased is actually Queen Sonja volume 1: I saw the cover featuring an incredibly confident and strong woman sitting on her throne. I bought it out of curiosity and I'm very glad I did. I adored the character: Very good warrior but not superhuman, strong and determined without being overly brooding and a believable and interesting storyline about liberating a conquered kingdom instead of "Saving the universe". I don't mind fanservice unless it's way overblown but that wasn't the case here: Sonja's outfit is minimal, but it definitively wasn't a serie of "exploitative" shot one after the other. I did go over some gorrier panels quickly but it was bearable since I liked the story itself so much.

    So I started purchasing some comics alongside those lines with little research. More Queen Sonja books (Very enjoyable though lacking in humor), Red Sonja Omnibuses (fun until it devolved into a "You are the chosen one and only you can save the universe" thing, haven't read the 3rd one (issue 35 onward) yet so it might get nice again), a small handful of random Zenescope mini-stories (Jungle-book was fine but the others were a bit too "grim" for me), 7 Warriors (I was literally angered by the book's end and it's the most disagreable thing I've ever read in all my life), Carbon Grey (Art's utterly amazing but story's all over the place: I'll try re-reading it to see if I can get something out of it), Jungle Girl Omnibus (It starts amazing and gets progressively worse), Walkyrie (in French, very nice but those french BD are so stupidly expensive) and a few more along those lines.


    Out of everything I own, Angelus is by far my favorite. I only bought it because the cover featured an absolutely magnificient angel on the cover: I adore warrior angels and other "good and divine" beings (like Valkyries) and if the cover is that nice, the book itself has to be nice, right? In this case, it actually turned out to be true: My mind has been completely blown by the art in it: It's utterly beautiful, the characters faces are amazingly emotives, everything is pure beauty. You can literally "feel" the attachment and love of the main characters through both writing and imagery in the comic, beyond anything I've ever read in graphic form. There's normally mundane scenes that turns out wonderful like Dani's meetings with her father. There's nice fighting scenes and a touch of humor. I've read it 4 times so far and it keeps amazing me each time... And there's only 1 volume :(

    I know it's from Witchblade mythos and that it has two huge omnibuses available at a nice price (and a third one this summer), but from what I can read the story is a huge, huge mess, at least for a very large amount of the "early" issues. Things like First Born and Broken Trinity (by the same author and artist) are about about "Universe-changing events" which is definitively not my cup of tea. Plus, it's all linked to The Darkness and Artifacts so I'm not sure how underestandable Witchblade is without reading those also... I'll probably give it a try eventually but I currently have some misguivings about the whole thing.


    Power Girl is my 2nd favorite comic I own and it's so much less of a mess so I'd definitively prefer having a few more things along that line to read. :)

    Regarding the Angelus:

    According to wikipedia the Angelus appeared in The Darkness Vol. 1, issues 4, 6, 11, 13, and 14 which are available in the Darkness compendium, The Magdalena: Origins Vol. 2 and from what I recall the Angelus played an important role in the First Blood and Broken Trinity mini series, also available in Gn.

    Danielle Baptiste first appeared in issue 100 of Witchblade, so if ur into the Angelus you might as well start there and get the whole story. The Darkness can be a little dark (ba dump bump), but hes a tragic character, hes not supposed to be rainbows and unicorns.

    Basically beyond what i listed Id say its worth getting all of the Darkness and Witchblade comics if youre interested in the character of the Angelus. Theyre good titles in their own right and are inseperably linked to the Angelus. Top Cow keeps them all in print and has big honking omnibus and compendiums so it would be pretty easy to catch up.

    Regarding DC:

    If you liked Powergirl logically Supergirl would be the next thing to try. (Powergirl is supergirl from an alternate earth) The new52 Supergirl is pretty good and is a well rounded female character (not cheesecake) The new52 Worlds' Finest follows the current version of Powergirl but it is alittle cheesecake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kymeric View Post
    Regarding DC:

    If you liked Powergirl logically Supergirl would be the next thing to try. (Powergirl is supergirl from an alternate earth) The new52 Supergirl is pretty good and is a well rounded female character (not cheesecake) The new52 Worlds' Finest follows the current version of Powergirl but it is alittle cheesecake.
    I think the OP stated they're looking for something similar in tone and style from the Gray/Palmiotti/Conner Power Girl issues.

    Not exactly sure those titles match.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the4thpip View Post
    Not a DC book, but I bet you would enjoy Dan Slott's run on Marvel's She-Hulk.
    I agree. Slott's She-Hulk was a great book. You would enjoy it...His Thing book was pretty good too (sadly it only lasted 8 issues).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayra View Post
    I hate super heroes. Games, movies, comics: All the ones I tried fell somewhere in between "Absolutely attrocious" and "Meh" to me.

    That is, until I read Power Girl: A New Beginning. I usually stay away from super hero stuff, but I kept seeing it pop-up in the "recommended for you" thingy on Amazon. The reviews were really, really good and kept commenting about how funny and enjoyable it was, and it was a new serie so I would probably not be completely lost... So I bought it despite having big misgivings about it.

    I absolutely adored the comic. It's upbeat, fun and has a positive vibe to it. Simple things like the shopping/movie scenes with Power Girl and Terra just sold the whole comic to me. The artwork is very nice and the characters are extremely expressive with their faces and body language. I really enjoyed that it was more about the characters than the usual "You are the only one who can save this universe while brooding" thing I thought always applied to super heroes, or convoluted plots that made little sense. It was a really fun read all around and I'll definitively be getting the other Power Girl books in the serie (although the 2nd one seems awfully rare) and the "prequel" Terra. Beyond that...

    I'm honestly overwhelmed. There's just many super-heroes, series, reboot, crossover and everything all over the place that I have no ideas where to start. I've tried poking around blindly in some of those 3 pages previews on comixology but I'm not really getting anywhere so I'd really appreciate if you guys could point me in the right direction. Right now I'm considering trying out Batwoman due to part of the theme but that's all I have so far, so any suggestion is appreciated!

    - Humor is a big plus
    - Female leads is a big plus, but not a must
    - It needs to be understandable without having to read 10 other series beforehand
    - A big, nicely priced omnibus is always nice, but as long as it's easily available (like on Amazon in paper preferably or on comixology digitally at worst) it's fine
    - "Only you can save the universe" plots tend to do nothing for me
    - Overwhelming amount of gory stuff in the comic is a definitive minus (I can overlook it by quickly going over pages with it if the rest of the story is worthwhile enough, though)

    Thanks in advance!

    It's ok, but nothing great or even worth noticing. Amanda Conner's art is always a plus.

    For that branch of comedy there's JLI, which is great. And if you like it, hundreds of pages await you. I heard similar stuff about Damage Control.

    For great stuff there's Watchmen, Year ONE, DKR, Doom Patrol, Animal Man.
    On that level, Sandman, V, Ronin, Books of Magic and Swamp Thing are not about superheroes (albeit tied through shaed continuity). From Hell, Maus, Tale of One Bd Rat, Ghost World are examples of great non-superhero, non-DC comics from the same type of writers. Top Ten is worth a shot.
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    Power Girl was the comic that really pulled me in and made me a reader as well. Having said that, I second (third?) Slott's She-Hulk as being the perfect Marvel counterpart to Amanda Conner's Power Girl.

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