Question on JLA in "Death of Superman"

[Lois]

Haven't read that comic in a long, long time.
Got to go take a look at that again.
One of my all time fave Superman comics.

[Lois]

Err....Kara very much existed Post-Crisis long before "Public Enemies". In Peter David's Supergirl run before the other Kara and Superboy's retcons/changes/etc.....

Really like the art work in those images.
Thanks for posting those.

[dupersuper]

"Is there any power she doesn't have?"
"The power of an 8th grade science education"

[marshal99]

"Is there any power she doesn't have?"
"The power of an 8th grade science education"

She's supposed to be the "pre-crisis" supergirl , logic doesn't really apply to pre-crisis feats.

[SJNeal]

I read the posts. Good to go back to the whole Death/Return era and not listen to guys who were 6 years old when it happened telling me how everyone thought it was bad.

QFT!

I may have been 12, but I feel the same way!

[dupersuper]

She's supposed to be the "pre-crisis" supergirl , logic doesn't really apply to pre-crisis feats.

I know: I'm quoting Linda and Kon from later in the story.

[Lorendiac]

"Is there any power she doesn't have?"
"The power of an 8th grade science education"

She's supposed to be the "pre-crisis" supergirl , logic doesn't really apply to pre-crisis feats.

I know what you mean, but I don't entirely agree.

I would say: "Logic still applied in principle -- but the specific starting premises of Pre-Crisis Supergirl stories were different from the premises which apply to the physics of the real world or even to the physics of the Post-Crisis DCU. So in that bit from PAD's run, Silver Age Kara's attempt to change the course of Planet Earth by pushing downward on the ground really hard was Perfectly Logical in terms of things she had observed Superman successfully achieving in the alternate timeline of her birth . . . but it didn't work the same way in the timeline we sometimes called 'the New Earth of the DCU.'"

Any chain of logic is only as good as its starting premises. Silver Age Kara hadn't quite grasped the fact that she was in a place where one set of premises needed to be replaced with another! (Likewise: Linda, at the time she made that remark about an eighth-grade science education, may not have yet grasped the fact that Kara's behavior would have been scientifically correct and beautifully effective in the timeline of her birth!)

[Buried Alien]

I know what you mean, but I don't entirely agree.

I would say: "Logic still applied in principle -- but the specific starting premises of Pre-Crisis Supergirl stories were different from the premises which apply to the physics of the real world or even to the physics of the Post-Crisis DCU. So in that bit from PAD's run, Silver Age Kara's attempt to change the course of Planet Earth by pushing downward on the ground really hard was Perfectly Logical in terms of things she had observed Superman successfully achieving in the alternate timeline of her birth . . . but it didn't work the same way in the timeline we sometimes called 'the New Earth of the DCU.'"

Any chain of logic is only as good as its starting premises. Silver Age Kara hadn't quite grasped the fact that she was in a place where one set of premises needed to be replaced with another! (Likewise: Linda, at the time she made that remark about an eighth-grade science education, may not have yet grasped the fact that Kara's behavior would have been scientifically correct and beautifully effective in the timeline of her birth!)

I've long believed that the physics of the Pre-COIE DC Multiverse worked differently from the physics of the Post-COIE DCU.

For this reason, Kal-L had a power level on roughly the same scale as the Silver/Bronze Age Earth-One Superman in the old Multiverse, but when he emerged in the Post-COIE DCU during INFINITE CRISIS, he was no stronger than Post-COIE Superman...because the physical laws of the latter would not allow him to be any stronger.

I imagine that if Pre-COIE Earth-One Superman were to emerge on Post-COIE Earth, he too would find his powers reduced to a level comparable to that of the Post-COIE Superman.

Superboy-Prime, in this sense, was an anomaly, because he appeared to emerge in the Post-COIE DCU with Pre-COIE level abilities (which along with his madness, is what made him so dangerous).

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