Future Justice League Movie in relation to Nolan's Dark Knight Triology

[MegaNaught]

Or Joker being able to basically predict the future?



I dont think he'd be any less mobile than Thor was.

He was a little stiff (that sounds dirty, but isn't meant to be) towards the end of Avengers, but the difference is that Thor is a god and wouldn't need to be as mobile as Batman would need to be as a mortal.

[SephirothDZX]

He was a little stiff (that sounds dirty, but isn't meant to be) towards the end of Avengers, but the difference is that Thor is a god and wouldn't need to be as mobile as Batman would need to be as a mortal.

I think that's more just a filmmaking thing versus a character thing. Batman's suit in TDK and Rises was supposed to be substantially more mobile than his Batman Begins one, wasnt it? They also never really made a huge issue of his mobility once he switched suits.

[MegaNaught]

I think that's more just a filmmaking thing versus a character thing. Batman's suit in TDK and Rises was supposed to be substantially more mobile than his Batman Begins one, wasnt it? They also never really made a huge issue of his mobility once he switched suits.

I know they didn't make a big deal of it, but I just felt like he didn't have very good mobility. He could turn his head better after TDK, but I always felt like his arms and legs were stiff when fighting. And you very well could be right, Nolan wanted a "realistic" suit and that would prevent fluid mobility. However, still think that that will not work in a JLA movie.

[Phil Clark]

Isn't the whole 'leader' thing more Superman's thing while Batman has always kind of been the guy who's more lead-by-example?

It depends on who was writing JLA at the time. I have seen it both ways. Superman in charge and Batman in charge. In this first film though... they would kind of need to be at odds until they work out a dynamic that allows them to perhaps co-lead the group.

Sounds like you want Bane and not Batman

Not hardly. The actors playing Batman in the movies have been notoriously scrawny. And Batman has always been portrayed more as a loner except for two films where we got Robin and Batgirl. So we just need to see a more heroic Batman, as opposed to a more vengence and justice driven character.

Something more akin to what Batman has been in the comics is not a call for a "Bane" like Batman in the least.

But I do still want to see a more detective like Batman in his solo films.

[jesse_custer]

Bale is not scrawny, unless you're watching Rescue Dawn or The Machinist or The Fighter.

He reportedly got so big for Batman Begins that he couldn't even fit into the costume at one point.

[Phil Clark]

Bale is not scrawny, unless you're watching Rescue Dawn or The Machinist or The Fighter.

He reportedly got so big for Batman Begins that he couldn't even fit into the costume at one point.

Well, by traditional Batman standards as relates to the physical Batman we would need in JLA, he is scrawny. True, he did a decent job bulking up for Begins... But it seems as if he really trimmed back for the Dark Knight and Rises.

This is the first I have heard of him not fitting the costume though. Are you sure you aren't getting Bale and Hemsworth confused on that point? Hemsworth did over bulk for Thor.

[toddx77]

Considering how MoS is looking to be similar to Nolans films in realism I would mind seeing Blake as Batman in a future Justice League movie because A: I have always viewed the Nolan films more as "Ultimate Batman" then a normal comic book interpretation of Batman and as seeing how MoS is doing the same I think it could work because to me it is no different then how in Marvels Ultimate Universe the Ultimate have a different Black Widow. B: I want to be how Blake is Batman. C: DC may feel it will help them because sadly there are many people who are going to think that DC made up the Justice League recently to simply rip off The Avengers, you all know who I am talking about. The same people who were calling Hawkeye Green Arrow or didn't know who Thanos was. Considering how well the Nolan Batman films have been if DC can tie them into Justice League then they might feel like it is more worth it to make the movie.

As for the idea of people like Superman not fitting into the same world as Batman Begins I remember people saying the same thing about Thor after Iron Man came out. I don't find it too hard to believe and other superhero films such as Hancock and Watchmen did a good job with super powers in the real world. Also the comics Superior and Super Crooks do the idea well too. If Blake and the MoS Superman are in fact the Batman and Superman for Justice League then I wonder if the Ryan Reynolds Green Lantern will also be used. If so then that is already 3 heroes and really all that is needed is a Flash and Wonder Woman movie. I would love to say Aquaman too but sadly I doubt it and if he is to be in Justice League he would appear in the movie itself instead of getting his own movie first.

I think DC needs to take a different approach to a Justice League movie though and not follow Marvel's path. I still say the best idea is to make the movie based off the first 6 issues of the new 52 Justice League. Not only was the story amazing, but it showed them all come together for the first time without having their own comic first. If you gave you 6 issues to someone who never read comics before they could still enjoy it for the most part as everyone knows these characters already and instead of showing each characters origin and own fight before coming together like Marvel did DC can do the opposite. Show these characters come together then show us their own stories.

[jesse_custer]

Well, by traditional Batman standards as relates to the physical Batman we would need in JLA, he is scrawny. True, he did a decent job bulking up for Begins... But it seems as if he really trimmed back for the Dark Knight and Rises.

This is the first I have heard of him not fitting the costume though. Are you sure you aren't getting Bale and Hemsworth confused on that point? Hemsworth did over bulk for Thor.

Bale had just filmed The Machinist, so he weighed about 120 or 130 pounds. He then gained about 100 pounds, which was too much, and dropped down to 190. I recall someone on the set saying he was like a huge bear and couldn't fit into the costume.

I'm not getting this confused with Hemsworth. Frankly, Hemsworth bores me, so I don't read anything about him.

[Nightfeather]

But I do still want to see a more detective like Batman in his solo films.

I agree. The World's Greatest Detective did not do much detective work in his most recent films.

[SephirothDZX]

I agree. The World's Greatest Detective did not do much detective work in his most recent films.

Or in any of his films for that matter. The most detective work we see him do is crack Joker's toxic cosmetics in the 89 movie (which we never actually see him do, he just tells Vicki the solution) and piece together Riddler's clues in Forever.

[jesse_custer]

I'll be honest, I've yet to see a Batman in any story on par with Dupont, Holmes, or Columbo.

[Mat001]

I think that's more just a filmmaking thing versus a character thing. Batman's suit in TDK and Rises was supposed to be substantially more mobile than his Batman Begins one, wasnt it? They also never really made a huge issue of his mobility once he switched suits.

"The Dark Knight Rises" is the first Batman film to have the same suit, all the way through the movie, in the entire twenty three years of the film franchise. And that was due to better mobility for the neck and limbs, even though it was heavier than the suit in "Batman Begins". In terms of muscle mass, while the comics version is generally 220 pounds or so, that's probably a bit too difficult to navigate in terms of both the costume and generally in terms of fighting skills. Most martial artists aren't as bulky say Sylvester Stallone. Look at Bruce Lee, Jackie Chan, Keanu Reeves and Jason Statham for example. All four did martial arts films, but were never over two hundred pounds. In his movies, Stallone mostly relies on punches like a brawler. He's never seen doing overtly complex. The comic and animated Batman has to be big looking because it is meant to be impressive.

[Nightfeather]

Just a suggestion but if they said his cape was bullet proof or something then they could give him a thinner suit. One he could do some real martial arts in, and move quickly. Lots of advanced tech and an impressive amount of martial arts could put him on par with other Justice League members.

[SephirothDZX]

I think for Justice League, DC should take a page out of The Avengers and have Batman's suit be a slightly armored suit that has the cloth costume part over the top of it just like Cap's costume.

[Phil Clark]

Or take a page out of Miller's run, the only part armored is the Chest Insignia. The quote then being "Why do you think I wear a bright yellow target on my chest?".