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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOther View Post
    With Peter being able to affect Ock's physical actions, it has me wondering if maybe Peter Parker is who/how Spider-Man/Otto gets fired from being an Avenger. Perhaps it isn't Ock, but Peter who does something because he doesn't want Otto as a member of the Avengers with access to all their intel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by destro View Post
    Yeah if that came out today people would be like "Nooooo Stan is a liar I'm off the book!!!!!"
    I know. Writers and editors saying things are permanent that arent really is something thats been done since Stan Lee on this character. (And even he didnt invent the idea of false hype).

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOther View Post
    With Peter being able to affect Ock's physical actions, it has me wondering if maybe Peter Parker is who/how Spider-Man/Otto gets fired from being an Avenger. Perhaps it isn't Ock, but Peter who does something because he doesn't want Otto as a member of the Avengers with access to all their intel.
    I like that Idea. That way Peter is electing to move his friends and what not out of harms way. Figuring he can deal with repairing his life later.

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    I think it's good that Slott revealed his "trick" so soon, as it might encourage readers who were skeptical to give it a try after all. And it might have been almost necessary too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOther View Post
    With Peter being able to affect Ock's physical actions, it has me wondering if maybe Peter Parker is who/how Spider-Man/Otto gets fired from being an Avenger. Perhaps it isn't Ock, but Peter who does something because he doesn't want Otto as a member of the Avengers with access to all their intel.
    Quote Originally Posted by ShaggyB View Post
    I like that Idea. That way Peter is electing to move his friends and what not out of harms way. Figuring he can deal with repairing his life later.
    Which I can totally see Peter doing. Basically, he'd be deliberately causing his own "Parker Luck" in order to keep Doc Ock on a tight leash.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lars C View Post
    I think it's good that Slott revealed his "trick" so soon, as it might encourage readers who were skeptical to give it a try after all. And it might have been almost necessary too?
    Pretty much. There's been a massive amount of comments across various spoilers for the issue saying "Oh? Really? Okay, nevermind, I guess I'm not done with Spider-Man forever."

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    Woooooohoooooo! Im so gonna read this

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravin' Ray View Post
    If it wasn't a given that Peter's influence would still be around in some form or another, we should have gussed anyway that his role is not yet finished, based on Uncle Ben telling him that he can't rest until he stops Otto running around ruining his legacy as Peter Parker and as Spider-Man. So that's the mission that's keeping him on Earth.
    I think Peter is still alive, he can see everything the Otto personality is doing but he doesn't seem to realize he hasn't actually died yet. Trapped in his own mind trying to fight off an extremely brainwashed version of his own self.

    Slott wouldn't do something lame as ghosts, he gets that Spider-Man is a scientific superhero, I think it's just Pete's original id starting to punch cracks through that barrier wall Ock made when he blocked off Peter's original personality and plastered a copy of his over it with the golden octobot.

    Like others have theorized, I too believe the real Doc Ock died in 700.
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    But I like ghosts...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOther View Post
    With Peter being able to affect Ock's physical actions, it has me wondering if maybe Peter Parker is who/how Spider-Man/Otto gets fired from being an Avenger. Perhaps it isn't Ock, but Peter who does something because he doesn't want Otto as a member of the Avengers with access to all their intel.
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    Now I'm wondering if Otto might be a "fakeout" protagonist, and the real story is Peter's journey back to the living world...

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    Quote Originally Posted by EuphemismForSex View Post
    But I like ghosts...
    Peter, the spider ghost,
    The spideriest ghost you know.
    Though Doc Ock might
    Look at him with fright,
    The fanboys all love him so.

    He always says hello (Hello),
    and he's really glad to meetcha.
    Wherever he may go,
    He's sticky to every living creature.

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    I see some people surprised they didn't hold off this reveal longer but I don't think anybody would be willing to bank on Doc Ock becoming a huge successful Spider-Man ongoing (people didn't seem to want an Irredeemable Ant-Man, don't think they'll want someone a thousand times worse) without some assurance that this creep is going to be put in his place eventually.

    It was a smart move to reassure people that Peter is still hanging around, they'll lose less readers that way. Not that I was going to leave the book but I can see why some might have wanted to by the end of the issue if this hadn't come up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chaos View Post
    I think Peter is still alive, he can see everything the Otto personality is doing but he doesn't seem to realize he hasn't actually died yet. Trapped in his own mind trying to fight off an extremely brainwashed version of his own self.

    Slott wouldn't do something lame as ghosts, he gets that Spider-Man is a scientific superhero, I think it's just Pete's original id starting to punch cracks through that barrier wall Ock made when he blocked off Peter's original personality and plastered a copy of his over it with the golden octobot.

    Like others have theorized, I too believe the real Doc Ock died in 700.
    I don't think Force Ghost Pete is a literal ghost either. I think it was just Slott and Ryan Stegman's way of illustrating that Peter somehow got back into his body but only on a subconscious level. In other words, while Doc Ock is the one who is driving, Force Ghost Pete is in the backseat going "Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Are we there yet?"
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    This is very disappointing to me. Not the comic but the reaction.
    SS#1 was good. (Well except again for MJ being oblivious and no one mentioning they all got impact web in the face last time.) But the ending reveal was terrible. It was done solely to appeal to the complaining, whiny, fan base that freaks out when things are changed. So from a financial standpoint the ending was a home run. I can't believe how many "Well I wasn't going to read SS but now I will," comments I've seen. From a writing standpoint this is awful. All emotional impact, or sense of drama related to how Pete will come back is now lost. It also reveals what SS really is. A cheap marketing ploy. (Maybe it's not, but that's how it comes off.) We can all expect next year to start with ASM vol 3. #25.

    We all knew Pete was coming back, obviously. But the same can be said for almost any tv show, book, movie. We know that the majority of the time the protagonist will win, yet while we are watching/reading, you don't think about it. You get caught up in the moment. This was like Marvel putting a big stick at the beginning of their comic saying "We'd like to remind our readers that by the end of this story the superhero will defeat the super villain, so please stay calm."

    I like SS, and will continue to read it. It will be interesting to see what happens when Otto has to deal with a villain he can't defeat via prep/evil lair trap style. What he will do when he can't simply run away. I can only hope that now that they have bowed down to kiss the raging fanboys feet that they won't bring ghost Pete up again until much further down the road.

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