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    Default AVX # 5.1 - A Whole Issue Missing?

    There is a whole issue missing between #5 and 6, where we actually see the day after the P5 make Earthfall and change the planet. If Marvel want to make some more money, why don't they print this issue? It would sellout. Why didn't they publish this story with the rest of the Event, in the first place? We had this wonderful buildup to a story, and the story was the evolution of the Earth, where the Phoenix took over the P5 and sent them to do it's task, but all we hear is the story reports about it 11 days later. I for one, would like to see this issue printed in full.

    Marvel could call it :

    AVX : Utopia

    And really put some effort into it.
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    From where... are you getting this information?
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    Lol, you called issues #1-5 wonderful buildup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dog View Post
    From where... are you getting this information?
    It's sort of like the last issue of Secret Invasion. we don't get to see the end of the event in real time, just Norman Osborn reselling what happened. Issue 6 is like that, so there is is that 10 day delay from issue 5 to when Xavier comes to visit Pax Utopia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by adam.walters View Post
    Lol, you called issues #1-5 wonderful buildup.
    It set the ground rules for what Scott was going to do, and when the Phoenix gave him the power, he did it. The whole idea of changing the world was there in front of us, but we were never shown it. So yes, the build up was wonderful. Now I won't to see how it was done, not flip passed a few issues and show us in retrospect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jackolover View Post
    It set the ground rules for what Scott was going to do, and when the Phoenix gave him the power, he did it. The whole idea of changing the world was there in front of us, but we were never shown it. So yes, the build up was wonderful. Now I won't to see how it was done, not flip passed a few issues and show us in retrospect.
    What is the difference at this point? The story would be a flashback now as well.

    We were shown Scott addressing the UN, declaring his intent. We were shown the nature of the P5's work in various countries, from destroying arms to sowing crops and building infrastructure. We were shown their solution to social unrest. We were even shown their (failed) attempts at genetic manipulation of wildlife.

    What more do you wish to see?
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    I saw more than enough. Its a story done in comics only about a billion times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saku View Post
    I saw more than enough. Its a story done in comics only about a billion times.
    Not that I can remember in the MU. This was ground breaking stuff as far as society was concerned. Reed Richards backed it wholeheartedly, saying the world needed changing, and now what is Tony Stark doing (who was against the P5)? He is leaving Earth space to go find himself some of this change. So yeah, I would still like to see the reaction of the Earth governments to this kind of change.
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    That wasn't the story they were trying to tell. It was set dressing to make the Avengers briefly question their resistance and to make the X-Men's fall that much more significant.

    Why waste time developing a new status quo that would never be used, that would be evaporating in short order as the Phoenix Five imploded? This wasn't House of M where the changes to the setting were integral to the conflict.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Expletive Deleted View Post
    That wasn't the story they were trying to tell. It was set dressing to make the Avengers briefly question their resistance and to make the X-Men's fall that much more significant.

    Why waste time developing a new status quo that would never be used, that would be evaporating in short order as the Phoenix Five imploded? This wasn't House of M where the changes to the setting were integral to the conflict.
    Very nice insight. I like that you put a purpose to the narrative and that it's uses only stretched to the eventual outcome.

    That I might disagree in part is because of the use of that dressing, because it is such a distinctive idea of world domination for the short term that produced the desired effect of dislodging the mutant stronghold and setting it on a new course that it has. It's disjointed. It's like saying a meteor destroyed the world because of Cyclops but Wanda magically repaired it after. At some point the people of the world experienced a destroyed world. It's a huge impact, even if it is all brought back together later. You'd think a world changed for the sake of ending war, would leave some endearing or negative impact on the psyche of mankind, or, at least give rise to the discussion of why something like that couldn't work, and we'd get a better insight on why the world is structured the way it is. The wrongs, the lies, the deceptions are all part of the human condition and there isn't a thing you can do to change it?

    By the way, how cold is it where you are? I've got 37C right now, so I'm sweltering.
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