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    Quote Originally Posted by Surtur View Post
    Actual beings with this much power? Or simply people who were going to use tech to do so?
    A multiversal collapsing event. So he at least has the experience of prepping to deal with such an event to be useful to the team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abmccray View Post
    2) Adult Franklin (can create multiple universes at will much easier than Lucifer, )
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    Just to isolate this, I am not sure if this is true. Lucifer went to the lengths he did to create his cosmos because he wanted it to be be completely separate from Yahweh's creation. And using Michael was needed because only his Demiurgic power could create something out of nothing. Franklin created universes inside of pre-existing ones-- given Lucifer's mulitversal reality warping, in his own creation and that of God's, I wouldn't put that much past him.

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    Ok: I'll try an actual list of 10:

    1 Marvel Odin
    2 Anti-Monitor
    3 well fed Galactus
    4 full power Spectre
    5 Living Tribunal
    6 Superman Prime from DC 1,000,000
    7 PC Darkseid
    8 Q
    9 The Doctor
    10 Squirrel Girl
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    Quote Originally Posted by dupersuper View Post
    Ok: I'll try an actual list of 10:

    1 Marvel Odin
    2 Anti-Monitor
    3 well fed Galactus
    4 full power Spectre
    5 Living Tribunal
    6 Superman Prime from DC 1,000,000
    7 PC Darkseid
    8 Q
    9 The Doctor
    10 Squirrel Girl
    Well, there you've got someone who's AT LEAST on Lucy's level in the LT, as well as someone maybe there in Spectre - that might go against the OP...

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    Quote Originally Posted by abmccray View Post
    A multiversal collapsing event. So he at least has the experience of prepping to deal with such an event to be useful to the team.
    Ok, but what specifically could he do to Lucifer? What type of prep did he show in the event you're speaking of that would be affective against him? Are you talking about him stopping the reality bomb? Disabling machines or tech or outsmarting smart, but stupid villains and such things sure he can deal with, but Lucifer is a guy who'd treat a multiversal collapsing event as a minor inconvenience.

    Quote Originally Posted by big_adventure View Post
    Well, there you've got someone who's AT LEAST on Lucy's level in the LT, as well as someone maybe there in Spectre - that might go against the OP...
    The OP actually says they have to be weaker then Lucifer individually. Debates aside on whether or not Lucifer is equal to the LT, I definitely don't think the LT is weaker. Likewise while I don't think a full powered Spectre could beat him I don't think he'd be weaker either.

    I actually don't think any team mentioned in this thread could pull this off. Maybe the team with Reed and the UN, but even that seemed debatable. Protege was mentioned, but not on a specific team. Plus if he can copy the powers of a being like LT he might not qualify as weaker then Lucifer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Surtur View Post
    Ok, but what specifically could he do to Lucifer? What type of prep did he show in the event you're speaking of that would be affective against him? Are you talking about him stopping the reality bomb? Disabling machines or tech or outsmarting smart, but stupid villains and such things sure he can deal with, but Lucifer is a guy who'd treat a multiversal collapsing event as a minor inconvenience.



    The OP actually says they have to be weaker then Lucifer individually. Debates aside on whether or not Lucifer is equal to the LT, I definitely don't think the LT is weaker. Likewise while I don't think a full powered Spectre could beat him I don't think he'd be weaker either.

    I actually don't think any team mentioned in this thread could pull this off. Maybe the team with Reed and the UN, but even that seemed debatable. Protege was mentioned, but not on a specific team. Plus if he can copy the powers of a being like LT he might not qualify as weaker then Lucifer.
    Spectre did fight Michael fairly evenly for awhile before losing. So he's not above Lucifer but he will put up a good fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slade View Post
    Spectre did fight Michael fairly evenly for awhile before losing. So he's not above Lucifer but he will put up a good fight.
    Isn't that the same thing that would happen if Lucifer fought Michael though?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Surtur View Post
    Isn't that the same thing that would happen if Lucifer fought Michael though?
    Lucifer and Michael are about even powerwise. Considering what Spectre's usual powerlevel is, that would be a really good showing for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by big_adventure View Post
    Well, there you've got someone who's AT LEAST on Lucy's level in the LT, as well as someone maybe there in Spectre - that might go against the OP...
    He is? Ok: replace LT with Bugs Bunny.
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    Obviously the tag-team of Deadpool and Dr. Strange could beat Lucifer ;)

    I'll just throw in Wolverine...just cuz I like overkill!
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