Suffering is a fact of life. You survive if you find a reason to endure it.
Dresden on the other hand I agree concurrently with your assessment. Of course that is why is not just him alone here. I'd suggested doubt with them taking him in the first scenario completely. With the second giving the team prep however those are heavy hitters of occult professions that have at least tangled with things along the sidelines of Lucifer if not out and out flipped him the bird ala Constantine depending on if the identification of the First of the Fallen is greater or less then Lucifer himself. I'd give that team a fair better shot then if it was Harry alone true enough. If anything Aaron is the weak link but I was establishing sources of information that might not be in the fieldwork of the others on the team; The Talamasca by the sheer process of watching and analyzing data of this sort of threat would at most be able to piece together some idea of what to try if not something that would work.
I'd say David could always sub out instead for Lestat but considering what the entity known as Memnoch..who was the Devil at least in that novel/universe...was able to do with him I doubt it would be much help at all.
Spot of an idea though from this train of thought? How about the Saint of Killers and his guns?
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I just don't know what prep would do to let them overcome such a huge powergap. Honestly, if you take the Ultimate Nullifier as the most amazing piece of tech Galactus ever created, in all the eons of his existence, and it still doesn't have feats that would put it above stuff Lucifer casually dismisses...
EDIT: I mean, here's the thing. Galactus and this group have encountered beings who can kick their asses. There wad the Cancerverse. There is who ever has the Infinity Gauntlet this week. There was the Annihilation Wave. There has been ample reason and opportunity to create improved weapons and defenses. And with that said, the Ultimate Nullfier still seems to take the top of what ANY of them have created. I don't think we can just grant them the ability to prep for a threat significantly above what they have ever dealt with successfully.
Last edited by Captain Morgan; 01-09-2013 at 02:57 PM.
I'll give it a shot. Going for the 2nd scenario. One sided, one week of advance prep.
Constantine, Thanos, Reed Richards, Axel Asher aka Access, Flash, Classic Dr. Strange, Sun Wukong, Destiny Endless,
Death Endless, and Galactus.
Access is there to fuse John & Stange, Wally & Reed, as well as provide transport services to either universes.
John Constantine + Classic Dr. Strange = John's mind with Strange's Magic
and resouces. Slap him with the Flash Speed level Reed tech belt and send him off.
Flash + Reed = Ridiculous prep time + Access to Galactus tech.
Death of the Endless is there just so Thanos can fall in love, which will motivite him into another Thanos Quest.
Sun Wukong + Destiny = Troll Department. It would be hilarious if Access can merge these two together.
After their herculean task, if they survive then.
Eventually Galactus, and Death fall in love due to their intimate understanding of each other work.
Forming a three way love triangle with Thanos.
Can someone like Protege copy Lucifer if he could copy the LT?
Last edited by cbrer; 01-09-2013 at 07:11 PM.
Gonna try an alternate bunch for the prep match...
- The Master (Doctor Who)
- Swamp Thing at his most powerful (DC)
- Spawn at his most powerful (Image)
- PC Nemesis Kid (DC)
- Carmen Sandiego
- Yakko, Wakko & Dot (Animaniacs)
- Matter Eater Lad (DC)
- PC Darkseid (DC)
Prep, power, smarts and a lot of fuckwittery.
-Master adds nothing, he's never prepped for anything close to this
-Swamp Thing, ok here is another one I don't know I guess, but is he multiversal? Something tells me he isn't
-PC Nemesis Kid had limits, Lucifer is above them(Hell didn't he just teleport away from Validus?)
-Carmen Sandiego is useless
-Animaniacs, again I don't think they've ever come up against anything this powerful
-Matter Eater Lad, has he eaten beings that can shrug off multiverse destroying blasts?
-PC Darkseid, potent..but not even Galactus or Odin level let alone Lucifer.
Constantine does it through trickery, which is fine for maybe 90% of beings in fiction, but Lucifer? It's said the biggest threat about him is intelligence. Considering he can take a multi-verse buster think about what that means in terms of how smart/clever he is. As for the First of the Fallen I really don't think he's Lucifer level.those are heavy hitters of occult professions that have at least tangled with things along the sidelines of Lucifer if not out and out flipped him the bird ala Constantine depending on if the identification of the First of the Fallen is greater or less then Lucifer himself.
Yeah, but that's like me trying to fight a hurricane, but I come wearing body armor. Sure I'm a little but tougher, but I'm still going to get blown away nonetheless.I'd give that team a fair better shot then if it was Harry alone true enough.
Never killed anyone on Lucifers level, required God to be weakened(not on his throne) in order to kill him. Can't even put down vampires.Spot of an idea though from this train of thought? How about the Saint of Killers and his guns?
Last edited by Surtur; 01-09-2013 at 07:48 PM.
A woman can move a lot faster with her skirt up than a man can with his pants down.
Joke team really, with enough fuckwittery from the Animaniacs, Matter Eater Lad and Carmen Sandiego, and enough smarts from The Master, to actual be a genuine threat in a scenario (NOT in Khazan).