Fortress or Kent Farm?

[Coyote2010]

I'm a 70s kid so for me it's still Fortress, but I do see him at home anywhere.


I was thinking about the Moses and Jesus stories. Obviously Superman is a much more human figure in most ways, but with Moses and Jesus, sure they were both raised by different people but both were not the place they grew to adulthood in... Moses doesn't stay Egyptian prince, he goes back to his roots. Jesus identitifies not as Joseph's son, but as the son of God. Both very much have a true identity that has nothing to do with where they were nutured. In both their cases "Clark" is not the disguise, it's almost a mistaken identity.

I do think the point of Superman is very much a celebration of the uniqueness of humanity, but I always feel that he loves people like no human being ever could.

Anyhow, I realize Superman is more inspired by than a direct repeat of those stories, but, I never say he is not Kal El, even if he was raised by the Kents. His birth parents named him and if you buy the idea of "Perfect Memory" Superboy and Superman know Krypton well.

[dupersuper]

Other than Bruce (and maybe J'onn and Diana), I don't think any of the others have ever been there and not been in costume (in an established continuity, not an Elseworlds). When they had a meeting in the farm pre-Nu52 (this is way back during Morrison's run on the JLA), they were costumed. There was Batman, in the kitchen, eating an apple...

I don't remember Aquaman wearing a costume...

Heh, I don't remember that at all. Do you happen to know what issue/story that was?

In any event, there must have been some sort of telepathic cloak by MM, or some kind of assurance that no one would see them. Otherwise, it seems like a poor decision on Clark's part.

It was during the Electro-Supes period, if I recall correctly. Jonathan and Martha were present, too, and it was night time. There was a 'complaint' about Batman being late but Arthur said that he was in the kitchen and that it seems that sometimes he (Batman) forgets that he (Aquaman) can see through the darkness at the depths of the ocean. Batman replied along the lines of 'hnh, yeah, I forgot. That sounds about right' (paraphrase, sorry, it's been a while).

The meeting was, I think, to decide on new recruits to the League, and the Watchtower was undergoing repairs at the time, I think.

The farm is 'in the middle of nowhere', so it's pretty safe from prying eyes - I think Arthur was a little uncomfortable at being so far from the ocean, but don't quote me on that.

Sorry I can't be more specific than that right now.

It was in a JL special right after they disbanded at the end of Rock of Ages. Aquaman was indeed uncomfortable being so far inland, but commented that it was quite beautiful. I wonder if Batman drove the Batmobile up the Kent driveway, or if he had to try to skulk there through the corn fields...

Yeah, I guess the farm is secluded enough so that no one would see them, especially with the meeting being in the middle of the night.

It was daytime.

Aquaman were there, too. I thought that was a cool scene--Superman, Batman and Aquaman in the Kent's kitchen having a meeting (during the 'Rock of Ages' storyline, I believe) and Batman eating an apple. Morrison's JLA was the best JLA ever.

Indeed, though Christopher Priest wrote that specific story.

[adkal]

Jesus identitifies not as Joseph's son, but as the son of God.

He's referred to as 'the son of the carpenter' on a couple of occasions in the Gospels.

[adkal]

I don't remember Aquaman wearing a costume...

Alas, I don't have access to my books, but I think you're right. Jeans, shirt and the hook hand, I guess. After Batman's revealed, Clark changes into the blue Electro-suit.

It was in a JL special right after they disbanded at the end of Rock of Ages. Aquaman was indeed uncomfortable being so far inland, but commented that it was quite beautiful. I wonder if Batman drove the Batmobile up the Kent driveway, or if he had to try to skulk there through the corn fields...

'Tis a mystery and perhaps best left that way

[Coyote2010]

He's referred to as 'the son of the carpenter' on a couple of occasions in the Gospels.

That is so true and it adds resonance to his character as well! My bad.

[adkal]

That is so true and it adds resonance to his character as well! My bad.

In Islam, he's referred to as 'the son of Mary', 'a Word from God', 'the Messiah', and 'a Sign' (as well as other names). There's no Joseph and no need for him, however the references to Mary have a similar purpose as the references to Joseph do in the Gospels - tie him back to his humanity.

[Coyote2010]

In Islam, he's referred to as 'the son of Mary', 'a Word from God', 'the Messiah', and 'a Sign' (as well as other names). There's no Joseph and no need for him, however the references to Mary have a similar purpose as the references to Joseph do in the Gospels - tie him back to his humanity.

How about when he is on the cross, clearly when he asks for his father to forgive his persecutors he's not talking about Jonathan Kent, I mean Joseph!

[Lois]

Voted for the Fortress of Solitude.

IMHO is where he accepts his destiny and Kryptonian heritage, with advice from his birth father Jor-El to become Superman.