Soul Society vs The Ten Tails

[Nik Hasta]

On the other hand, that's not quite country-size.

Region-busting?

County busting?

[Hazard]

Its own blast (which level are we calling that blast anyway, is it country-busting?) exploded inside of the Juubi and at best that kind of stunned it.

Let's see... if we say the mountain busting blasts were like 5km in diameter, then that would make Juubi's own blast about a 100km in diameter.

The area would then be something like 7 853.98 square km.

Japan's area is 377,900 km²

Maryland's area is 32,130 km²

Puerto Rico's Area is 9,104 km²


Of course, the blast was way bigger from top to bottom than it was from side to side and this is just me making up random numbers for the fun of it.

[Ghostpointzero]

Honestly I think we should wait and see what the others Bankai's can do. So far Kenpachi has yet to even use his Shikai much less Bankai, Zero Squad is still training Ichigo and the others I think when it's all said and done Soul Society will be able to take the Ten Tails no problem, but lets wait and see.

I still don't see a reason why Captain Commanders Bankai, East, West, North or South can't take out The Ten Tails. His heat was basically the suns level of heat. The Tentails may have poweful blast but those are blast not heat. Over the course of 1000 years, the power of Zanka no Tachi has greatly increased, changing from having once set ablaze anything it cuts, to now incinerating anything it cuts out of existence. No flames are visible as it cuts. Yamamoto claims that releasing his Bankai clads both his blade and his body in the flames of the sun. Yamamoto states that prolonged use of his Bankai can destroy his opponent, Soul Society and even himself.

Now these are just claims but I think the power he displayed speaks for itself.

[Hazard]

I still don't see a reason why Captain Commanders Bankai, East, West, North or South can take out The Ten Tails.

Same here.

:)

Seriously though, Yama doesn't have feats on that level. No one in Bleach has.

Besides, it's not like explosions (real life nuclear explosions) aren't hot. It's very much the opposite in fact.

[Siriel]

Yamamoto displayed the power to beat down a dude who curbstomped Kenpachi.

That is hilariously below what would be required to take down the Ten Tails.

The Kyuubi can throw mountain busters, which is above anything in Bleach short of Final Getsuga Ichigo and Death Metal Aizen in term of firepower. The Jyuubi finger-flicks those away.

[Ghostpointzero]

Who says the Blast are even going to hit Captain Commander? He's much to fast and can easily evade those blast, he's not going to sit there and just let some blast hit him. Plus he survived one of his own attacks when Aizen used wonderweiss to obsorb his heat and made it into a blast that can bust a city, he took it full on. Mind you he had to loose in arm in the process by using a forbidden Kido spell but still. Even if somehow CC can't take down the Ten Tails, the rest of Soul Society would just finish it off.

Also there is no proof yet that the Ten Tails can withstand the heat equal to the suns heat. Like I said we should wait and see when both series are done and see how poweful each person becomes.

[Hazard]

Who says the Blast are even going to hit Captain Commander?

Well, one, Juubi's blasts are hilariously fast. Fast enough for 'nuke headquarters on the other side of the country' being a valid strategy. Fast as the old man is, he's not that fast.

Two, sheer AOE.

Three, the assumption of 'Nuke Soul Society from a country away'.

Plus he survived one of his own attacks when Aizen used wonderweiss to obsorb his heat and made it into a blast that can bust a city, he took it full on.

Which is way below what Juubi or even just Kyuubi can do.

Even if somehow CC can't take down the Ten Tails, the rest of Soul Society would just finish it off.

You mean the dozen of so guys who usually matter, but they really don't here as there is not a single thing they can do to Juubi?

Also there is no proof yet that the Ten Tails can withstand the heat equal to the suns heat. Like I said we should wait and see when both series are done and see how poweful each person becomes.

Unless you want to wait a year or so (10 if we take Kubo at his word) for the manga to end there's no point. The characters have enough feats. We are using them for rumbles. Hell, Juubi has like 10 chapters worth of feats or less and we are still using it.

Also, explosions are hot. Seriously, it's part of their thing.

[Siriel]

He's much to fast and can easily evade those blast, he's not going to sit there and just let some blast hit him.

No he's not.

The blast radius of those blasts is hilariously large, the blasts themselves travel at ridiculous speed (it takes them seconds to cross a country) and Yamamoto's speed feats are lacking in the "cross city-sized distances in an instant" area.

Plus he survived one of his own attacks when Aizen used wonderweiss to obsorb his heat and made it into a blast that can bust a city, he took it full on.

Yes. City.

A mountain buster, such as used by the Kyuubi, is more powerful than what would destroy a city.
The Jyuubi, in turn, is considerably more powerful than a mountain buster,

Mind you he had to loose in arm in the process by using a forbidden Kido spell but still.

You're mistaking the sequence of events.
He took the explosion, was massively messed up by it (and explosion much weaker than the Jyuubi's attacks) and then he used the forbidden kido to try to kill Aizen.

Even if somehow CC can't take down the Ten Tails, the rest of Soul Society would just finish it off.

How?

Like I said we should wait and see when both series are done and see how poweful each person becomes.

Or we could debate by what they've shown, like we do for everything else.

[Ghostpointzero]

Yes Blast are hot we get that. But is the blast has hot as the sun? Cause it has not shown that thus far, is the Blast faster than CC can move? I have not seen those blast display those kind of speed feats. At least not yet.

How will it react to Kido Spells? We don't know.

Right now it's all assumptions and just guestomations. Like I said if CC can't beat it, I don't see a reason the rest of Soul Society should not be able to after it's been weaken. Kubo said 10 more years of bleach before he decided the series was ending, which will probably be by the end of this year at the latest. If the characters in Naruto which are much slower and can take much less damage and soak and can distract it, I see no reason why the captains can't do the same or do it better. But as of right now it's just too early to tell, the Ten Tails is not at full power yet and some captains have not even shown the best they can do yet.

[Hazard]

Yes Blast are hot we get that. But is the blast has hot as the sun?

Let me put it this way, a nuclear blast can reach millions of degrees at its center. That's pretty much in the same range as Yama, and a nuclear blast is small to Juubi.

Cause it has not shown that thus far, is the Blast faster than CC can move? I have not seen those blast display those kind of speed feats. At least not yet.

You mean you didn't see it crossing a county in seconds? Nor did you see it cross several km instantly the first time 2nd Stage Juubi used it?

How will it react to Kido Spells? We don't know.

Somewhere in between 'finger flick' and 'let them bounce harmlessly against it'.

Because, you know, feats.

Unless you can provide feats of a Kido being useful against something as powerful as Juubi.

Right now it's all assumptions and just guestomations.

You mean comparing feats to see how characters stack against each other and determine the outcome of their battle.

Like I said if CC can't beat it, I don't see a reason the rest of Soul Society should not be able to after it's been weaken.

They have yet to show feats for harming something on that level. Unless you can provide them of course.

Kubo said 10 more years of bleach before he decided the series was ending, which will probably be by the end of this year at the latest. If the characters in Naruto which are much slower and can take much less damage and soak and can distract it, I see no reason why the captains can't do the same or do it better.

You mean the Naruto characters that didn't do a thing to it? Except Hachibi whose destructive power and durability exceeds most Bleach characters by a rather wide margin with two exceptions.

As an aside, the average Naruto mook is leagues above the average Bleach mook.

But as of right now it's just too early to tell, the Ten Tails is not at full power yet and some captains have not even shown the best they can do yet.

You say that but we are having the Rumble anyway. Just like we do for all fictions.

[Dark Soul # 7]

Yes Blast are hot we get that. But is the blast has hot as the sun? Cause it has not shown that thus far, is the Blast faster than CC can move? I have not seen those blast display those kind of speed feats. At least not yet.

Yamamoto doesn't have the feats of his flames being sun hot either. They're really really hot. But as far as was they weren't really sun hot, or how do we regard that sequence? And the blasts are faster than any speed Yamamoto ever displayed. They crossed an entire country in a matter of seconds. Yamamoto never did anything like that. Not to mention the AOE.

How will it react to Kido Spells? We don't know.

It probably ignores them. It's certainly strong enough.

Right now it's all assumptions and just guestomations. Like I said if CC can't beat it, I don't see a reason the rest of Soul Society should not be able to after it's been weaken. Kubo said 10 more years of bleach before he decided the series was ending, which will probably be by the end of this year at the latest. If the characters in Naruto which are much slower and can take much less damage and soak and can distract it, I see no reason why the captains can't do the same or do it better. But as of right now it's just too early to tell, the Ten Tails is not at full power yet and some captains have not even shown the best they can do yet.

Problem is that even all of the captain put together have never displayed the fire power or durability even close to what the Juubi has. Mountain range-County nuking blasts and the durability to be unhurt after one of them explodes inside it is WAY above the captains' paygrade.

[Hazard]

Being completely fair, it wasn't unhurt. It feel on his ass and his skin was slightly stretched afterwards.

That said considering what blew up inside of him... yeah, it is insane.

[Ghostpointzero]

Yes but we are arguing over unfinished material incomplete feats. Bascially the argument will turn out like this.

Boy One- This week the Ten Tails blew up a country

Boy One- Oh yeah in this weeks character of Bleach Kenpachi's Bankai released enough power to blow up a planet.

It's basically a one up game. It's all pointless until it's finished. Right now it's just a game of who can up with the best and more reasonable sounding arguments which by the way will be negated once new feats are added. I've said my peace on this subject and I'll come back once I can see the whole picture and not half a painting.

[Hazard]

Yes but we are arguing over unfinished material incomplete feats. Bascially the argument will turn out like this.

Boy One- This week the Ten Tails blew up a country

Boy One- Oh yeah in this weeks character of Bleach Kenpachi's Bankai released enough power to blow up a planet.

It's basically a one up game. It's all pointless until it's finished. Right now it's just a game of who can up with the best and more reasonable sounding arguments which by the way will be negated once new feats are added. I've said my peace on this subject and I'll come back once I can see the whole picture and not half a painting.

Unfortunately for you, that's the way Rumbles work.

If you don't like it no one is forcing you to stay.

[Guy Smiley]

Yes but we are arguing over unfinished material incomplete feats. Bascially the argument will turn out like this.

Boy One- This week the Ten Tails blew up a country

Boy One- Oh yeah in this weeks character of Bleach Kenpachi's Bankai released enough power to blow up a planet.

It's basically a one up game. It's all pointless until it's finished. Right now it's just a game of who can up with the best and more reasonable sounding arguments which by the way will be negated once new feats are added. I've said my peace on this subject and I'll come back once I can see the whole picture and not half a painting.

Yes, it sometimes occurs that a character gets a power-up or reveals an ability that would change the result of an earlier Rumble involving them. And this doesn't prevent people from arguing characters.

I mean hell, should we wait for Superman to finish having comics written about him before debating him? (Or at least until the next DC retcon, which is likely much sooner...)