Hopeless Begins the Games In "Avengers Arena"

[BrotherUnitNo_4]

The thing is most people who read it and give it negative reviews and such aren't buying it. They may of bought #1 but they are not buying any other issues. People just read it in the store or borrow it. So the activity is a lie.

That's just anecdotal evidence that ignores that most people who read it and gave it a positive review probably picked up issue 2, which got wider approval over issue one.

[Marveluted]

A lot of people on the forums get really invested in particular supporting characters, almost entirely for the sake of doing so. I love characters, but I love writers more. If a character dies, I can go back and read issues where they're not dead (I'm looking at you Banshee!).

Having said that, I can't wait to watch fictional children murder each other out of desperation. I'd even support a highlander-style "there can be only one" version of a legacy character or derivation thereof setup. ONE Hawkeye. ONE Wolverine. Only ONE character with "Marvel" in the name (Marvelman, old dead Captain Marvel, Blue Marvel, Marvel Boy/Protector, Captain Carol Danvers Marvel, etc.). ONE Spider-man. And especially ONE Hulk! Deathmatch 'em all I say!

[Jakerose]

WHY

[Dragonage2ftw]

No the evil that does not get explained is way more treating then the evil that does most of the time.

Not when its a villian thats been previously established, like Arcade.

[Colin7]

WHY

Man, remember how AWESOME George Perez was in his prime. Untouchable.

[Time_to_Zap]

I am pumped!!! I'm loving this series so far. Keep writing, Dennis...and just remember:

[Jakerose]

Not when its a villian thats been previously established, like Arcade.

The reason for me that I can take Arcade serious is that I do not know the upper limit of his power and I know very little about murder world so far.

[Sleepwalker42]

I was just reminded of something: Apparently, Hopeless think that what he did with Mettle and Hazmat was a standard Women in Refrigerators thing, or why that trope is reviled.

"But Mettle was a guy!" -- Eh, doesn't matter. Trope still applies. Gender doesn't play into it as far as I'm concerned.

Well, the whole trope is based on gender.

[Lady_Alternate]

I can't take any future comments or criticism seriously from anyone who thought the health bars were present in-character.

Most "criticism" being put forward is "I hate this because RARRRRR" and the rest that tries to get past that is nitpicking over minor details or trying to state personal opinion as objective fact.

People love this book. They love it because its well written, has excellent art that goes hand in hand with the narrative, and a story that is exceeding its origins and pitch.

You might hate it, but you're no more in the "right" than anyone else and the moaning is getting tiresome.

[Majin Gojira]

The reason for me that I can take Arcade serious is that I do not know the upper limit of his power and I know very little about murder world so far.

Well, I've said early on that ignorance was Arena's greatest hope and some of the polling I did supports that to a degree. If Arcade was new and so was the cast, I'd probably complain a lot less, if at all.

I can't take any future comments or criticism seriously from anyone who thought the health bars were present in-character.

Correction: I thought it would be better if they were in character. There's a difference. Regardless, I'd rather cop to being wrong than remain mired in a bad stance.

My bad, folks. I read it wrong. Could I be reading other things wrong? Certainly! Won't cop to it without evidence, of course. And this little detail was an unknown from the start.

Most "criticism" being put forward is "I hate this because RARRRRR" and the rest that tries to get past that is nitpicking over minor details or trying to state personal opinion of objective fact.

Glad I'm doing my best to cull those, but I doubt you agree with that since that comment seems almost a direct reference to my personage. Which is why I'm responding in longform like this, as your post is almsot the opposite of what you claim the negative comments are. "I LOVE THIS BOOK BECAUSE RAAARRRRR!!!"

People love this book.

And that's okay. I can't stress that enough. Loving a book does not make it good. Blinded by love is as bad as being blinded by hate and I try to avoid either.

They love it because its well written,

Obviously I disagree, leaning it towards "Mediocre". If it was well written, there would be a bit of snappy dialogue that is easily quote-able, a stand out joke or moment that didn't rely on visuals, but words alone. If you can't articulate why something is good, perhaps it's best you don't try and argue it.

That said, I'd love for someone to articulate their love with specifics. Like I do below.

has excellent art that goes hand in hand with the narrative,

Ya know, I can't agree more. Kev Walker is great for gritty, dirty stories, and the colorists work being muted, dark colors is a genius choice. I especially enjoyed the filtering in #2 for the flashbacks. Blue. Yellow. Red. This wouldn't get half the praise it has if it weren't for the art. (Now, if someone could do that for the writing, I'd probably shut up. . . or argue back, I dunno.)

And now I am picturing Arena drawn by Greg Land.

Oh god, what have I done.

and a story that is exceeding its origins and pitch.

There's no symbolic portion of worth yet, but it is a bit to early to judge that portion either way.

You might hate it, but you're no more in the "right" than anyone else and the moaning is getting tiresome.

The moaning is what's feeding Arena threads. Without them, they'd die! You want Arena thread's to die?! I thought you liked Arena!

[Marveluted]

[gregyo]

This needs to become a thing. Someone make a Xavier one.

[Majin Gojira]

I like this meme. I can get behind this new meme.

I can picture it being used on various undead to or black lanterns too.

[Hypestyle]

Kid Briton? Who?

[Marveluted]

This needs to become a thing. Someone make a Xavier one.

You got it, gregyo!



All credit to Jakerose for the initial Supergirl one. Now somebody do Banshee!

EDIT: Got the credit wrong at first.