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    Theres only a dark suit because its ashamed of being a Superman movie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypher-Z View Post
    Theres only a dark suit because its ashamed of being a Superman movie.
    yeah that's most likely it. The only explanation actually.

    Thanks for clearing it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypher-Z View Post
    Theres only a dark suit because its ashamed of being a Superman movie.
    Exactly.It is just as ashamed of being a superman movie as the fleschier cartoon was since it also used darker colors

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    You guys are welcome.

    The Fleischer suit still had bold bright colors. Black, red, blue, yellow. Nice and bold. Superman had a shiny blue, black, red, and yellow costume again during early 2000's. Which was fine too.

    The new suit is dull, washed out, and not bright at all. Because its ashamed to be so. No flying super alien would ever wear that, so unrealistic and ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypher-Z View Post
    You guys are welcome.

    The Fleischer suit still had bold bright colors. Black, red, blue, yellow. Nice and bold. Superman had a shiny blue, black, red, and yellow costume again during early 2000's. Which was fine too.

    The new suit is dull, washed out, and not bright at all. Because its ashamed to be so. No flying super alien would ever wear that, so unrealistic and ridiculous.
    You believe Clark Kent, in any medium, thinks of himself as a flying super alien who bases his clothing choices around that fact?

    Believing that there are people signing off on MOS who are sitting around feeling "ashamed" at the idea of making a Superman move is "unrealistic and ridiculous" in my opinion.

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    Nah. But I think the film is ashamed to be a Superman film so they have dark washed out colors for no reason other than that.

    Nice try with the Fleicher comment earlier too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypher-Z View Post
    Nah. But I think the film is ashamed to be a Superman film so they have dark washed out colors for no reason other than that.

    Nice try with the Fleicher comment earlier too.
    The film feels shame? Impressive.

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    Nice try again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypher-Z View Post
    Nah. But I think the film is ashamed to be a Superman film so they have dark washed out colors for no reason other than that.
    Or maybe there's more to the color scheme than we know. Perhaps it might be better to wait and see how the colors impact the storytelling before jumping to conclusions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypher-Z View Post
    Nice try again.
    Nice try for what? First, I didn't mention Fleischer before, so you were off base with that one. That being said, the Fleischer costume, nor the episodes themselves, were by any stretch of the imagination, bright. Second, you're talking nonsense with no explanation as to what you mean.

    You don't make a costume lighter to negate shame. It's a completely asinine statement. If you're ashamed to be making a superhero film, you just don't make one. Or perhaps you take them out of the costume and have CK wandering the planet stopping disasters, atrocities etc birthright-style. You don't make a slightly less bright costume.......

    When you're making a film, I assume you start with the script, work out the tone of the film and then design costumes etc later. The tone of the film suggests that a brightly coloured costume would look pretty out of place in the way they're shooting it. It doesn't make the film "ashamed", it makes it sensible.

    Personally I love the idea of a bleak world that a Superman can change over time. If it's all sunshine and rainbows there isn't much point in him being there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misslane38 View Post
    Or maybe there's more to the color scheme than we know. Perhaps it might be better to wait and see how the colors impact the storytelling before jumping to conclusions.
    Whats there to know?

    Quote Originally Posted by idlewildered View Post
    Nice try for what? First, I didn't mention Fleischer before, so you were off base with that one. That being said, the Fleischer costume, nor the episodes themselves, were by any stretch of the imagination, bright. Second, you're talking nonsense with no explanation as to what you mean.

    You don't make a costume lighter to negate shame. It's a completely asinine statement. If you're ashamed to be making a superhero film, you just don't make one. Or perhaps you take them out of the costume and have CK wandering the planet stopping disasters, atrocities etc birthright-style. You don't make a slightly less bright costume.......

    When you're making a film, I assume you start with the script, work out the tone of the film and then design costumes etc later. The tone of the film suggests that a brightly coloured costume would look pretty out of place in the way they're shooting it. It doesn't make the film "ashamed", it makes it sensible.

    Personally I love the idea of a bleak world that a Superman can change over time. If it's all sunshine and rainbows there isn't much point in him being there.
    Oh. My apologies with the Fleicher comment, thought you did earn the 2nd.

    The Fleicher animations were greatness. Doesnt have to be "uber deep" to be greatness. No one even said anything about it being uber deep.

    No one said you make a costume lighter to negate shame. You can clearly make a superhero movie and remove everything you think is nonsensical. Its been done. Though a little color is a bit ridiculous, especially for this character.

    Well so you admit its an uber dark film, there you go. Being all sunshine and rainbows doesnt have anything to do with a uniform, neither does it if it was messed up world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypher-Z View Post
    Whats there to know?



    Oh. My apologies with the Fleicher comment, thought you did earn the 2nd.

    The Fleicher animations were greatness. Doesnt have to be "uber deep" to be greatness. No one even said anything about it being uber deep.

    No one said you make a costume lighter to negate shame. You can clearly make a superhero movie and remove everything you think is nonsensical. Its been done. Though a little color is a bit ridiculous, especially for this character.

    Well so you admit its an uber dark film, there you go. Being all sunshine and rainbows doesnt have anything to do with a uniform, neither does it if it was messed up world.
    you've quoting me as talking about something being "uber deep" when I did nothing of the sort. I'm very confused by you tiny dancer.

    I think I'll wait to discuss this until someone with a coherent thought is on but thanks for your time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypher-Z View Post
    Whats there to know?
    There might be more context to the muted coloring. For example, Clark may initially wear the suit as a relic of his Kryptonian family's armor, but by the end of the film he could embrace his own more brighter coloring to match the light he has brought to the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by idlewildered View Post
    you've quoting me as talking about something being "uber deep" when I did nothing of the sort. I'm very confused by you tiny dancer.

    I think I'll wait to discuss this until someone with a coherent thought is on but thanks for your time.
    You said the Fleicher cartoons werent bright, I thought you meant as in context, as in simple. Of course it wasnt bright in the sense of the word, because it was made in 1940. Thats common sense. The colors are obviously meant to be bright, and still are even 10x more so than anything in the new film, which has state of the art color capturing.

    I also dont explain myself because I expect you to be able to put simple things together.

    Quote Originally Posted by misslane38 View Post
    There might be more context to the muted coloring. For example, Clark may initially wear the suit as a relic of his Kryptonian family's armor, but by the end of the film he could embrace his own more brighter coloring to match the light he has brought to the world.
    Well true, even with an explanation its still a matter that the directors think its silly. I doubt theyll go with a brighter thing because of the tone of the film seems to be following the current trends.

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    I need to re-watch my Fleischer Superman cartoons, but I feel like most of the episodes took place at night, for some reason.
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