Action Comics #16 Preview

[misslane38]

So the speculation about the Death of Superman in the DCnU has partially been addressed at least. So yes, Superman died fighting Doomsday, there was obviously a big funeral (complete with a huge statue tomb erected in his honor) and then he came back to save the day again. Essentially, the bare bones of that entire arc without any concrete specifics to what went down.

I thought the statue was an nice homage to the previous Death of Superman storyline.

[Sacred Knight]

Is this story still set 4 or 5 years in the past? I haven't read issue #15 yet, so I don't know.

If it is, Superman died really early in his career.

Does anyone know when this story is taking place?

Vyndktvx is attacking Superman at multiple points in time now, so its jumping around. The Mars stuff was present day, so if this is him crashing into Centennial Park on his return trip from Mars, this is present day as well.

I'm becoming more suspicious now that "Super Doom" killed Superman, and the Doomsday Lois speaks of here is that creature. She notes "this is how it was that day", so there's a connection between Vyn's machinations and Superman's death now. With our laws of time not applying to the imps, maybe after killing Superman its Mxy that brings Superman back to life, and what Vyn is trying to do here, in our present, is kill Mxy's human form so that he can't save Superman, which to them, has not yet happened.

[Last Son]

I don't know how I feel about Superdoom to be honest. He looks alright in this upcoming issue but the original art for him back in issue 9 was so dorky. Plus his origin is pretty contrived (being conjured up by some sort of mind machine).

[666MasterOfPuppets]

Holy crap, this is looking so good. Can't wait to read this issue. Damn you Morrison, why do you have to go?

[BBally]

I'm really trying to keep my expectations down as I'm really excited that Morrison's ending to his run, which has been fantastic in my opinion.

[manofsteel1979]

I'm becoming more suspicious now that "Super Doom" killed Superman, and the Doomsday Lois speaks of here is that creature. She notes "this is how it was that day", so there's a connection between Vyn's machinations and Superman's death now. With our laws of time not applying to the imps, maybe after killing Superman its Mxy that brings Superman back to life, and what Vyn is trying to do here, in our present, is kill Mxy's human form so that he can't save Superman, which to them, has not yet happened.

That's a possibility I just thought of after I posted, but Morrison if i recall correctly said it pretty much (the death) happened as it did before' but maybe not everything else. it COULD be that Doomsday could still have looked the same and have been the same creature , but his origin could be different, and actually be what SuperDoom evolved to and was sent into the past to kill Superman, or what Superdoom evolved from.

I guess we will see in a few days, but my money is on it only being hinted at and not entirely spelled out. I think it all works better that way really.

[Sacred Knight]

Yeah, he's reiterated a few times that the death happened as is, but these pages alone already seem to conflict that. The sky never turned red when Superman died (which it apparently did here as the whole scene is familiar to Lois), he didn't die in the park, he didn't return from the dead to beat his killer (at least Jimmy's way of phrasing things gave me that impression), and he never rebuilt Metropolis. So I wonder now if Morrison wasn't just being coy.

[Burning Eyes]

I'm really looking forward to this.

[brik-el]

Vyndktvx is attacking Superman at multiple points in time now, so its jumping around. The Mars stuff was present day, so if this is him crashing into Centennial Park on his return trip from Mars, this is present day as well.

I'm becoming more suspicious now that "Super Doom" killed Superman, and the Doomsday Lois speaks of here is that creature. She notes "this is how it was that day", so there's a connection between Vyn's machinations and Superman's death now. With our laws of time not applying to the imps, maybe after killing Superman its Mxy that brings Superman back to life, and what Vyn is trying to do here, in our present, is kill Mxy's human form so that he can't save Superman, which to them, has not yet happened.

Gotcha!

So this coming issue should be the first time Superman meets Superdoom. I wonder if we'll see the Earth 23 Superman again.

[Sacred Knight]

I think its also worth remembering that Mrs. Nyxly had one wish left when she died. A wish that was given to her as a gift by Mxy. Maybe his human form has that wish back since she's been dead.

[maxpower00044]

So, this is the last Morrison issue? Looks good, and I can't wait to re-read the whole story.

[Burning Eyes]

So, this is the last Morrison issue? Looks good, and I can't wait to re-read the whole story.

Last I heard #17 would be his last issue. Something about Superman having to save all of existence?

[Mr. Holmes]

Yeah it's #17, which will be extra-sized.

This run has basically accomplished two main things

1. Re-established Clark Kent and Superman as a superhero for the 21st century after years of complaints that he's become too outdated. Superman as a social crusader like his original counterpart and Clark as a young journalist with cool ideas.

2. Thematic tie-in to Final Crisis and Morrison's overall DCU narrative about ideas. Hopefully a lead into Multiversity too.

It'll be up to Snyder, Lobdell, and Diggle to keep the ball rolling on #1, and Morrison to get Multiversity ready already for #2.

[Russell]

So Diggle takes over with #18?

I'll check in then

[shadow knight]

How many times can Superman die until it lose it effect?