New Avengers #1 *Spoilers*

**Rheged** · 01-02-2013, 08:37 AM

Originally Posted by MB99

Correct, this is the part that threw me. In the beginning I assumed, as you said, it was simply translated for the sake of the reader, but when Black Swan identified the language they were speaking she said it was English. Probably just an oversight, or maybe the youth of wakanda (especially ones training to be explorers) just make it a habit to learn English.

Isn't English the lingua franca of science now? Or is it still French? I don't have the issue in front of me. But I think they might have been speaking their own language (but that wasn't indicated), but once someone showed up who was clearly speaking another language, they switched to a more commonly used language in order to communicate.

Do I get a no-prize?

**Omega Alpha** · 01-02-2013, 08:39 AM

Good issue, although I did prefer Avengers #1. I'm intrigued by this new threat, specially how this will relate to Avengers.

**Prof. Warren** · 01-02-2013, 08:39 AM

Dug it. Loved seeing BP in the spotlight. Epting's art was impeccable as usual. Once this really gears up with the entire cast in place, it's going to be an incredible book.

**nosocialize100** · 01-02-2013, 08:43 AM

Originally Posted by Prof. Warren

Dug it. Loved seeing BP in the spotlight. Epting's art was impeccable as usual. Once this really gears up with the entire cast in place, it's going to be an incredible book.

I agree. I'm glad the Illuminati are back. Should be epic.

**Songbird/Diamondback** · 01-02-2013, 08:51 AM

Originally Posted by NinjaMic

I'd say its about the same

Just one character instead of 3+ laying the groundwork

See, I didn't care about anything that happened in Avengers 1. The Avengers charged in with no strategy, and they treat it like it was the biggest loss of the century. There was no emotional value, and it was continually trumpeting Captain America's horn.

I really didn't like Avengers 1, but New Avengers 1 has me fully behind Black Panther! I feel for the guy and now I want to see him succeed!

**Demyx** · 01-02-2013, 09:37 AM

Not a big BP fan but I enjoyed it specially the art. New Avengers 1 definitely made me look for more.

**stussyjones** · 01-02-2013, 09:40 AM

Loved how BP describe each illuminati member

**USERNAME TAKEN** · 01-02-2013, 09:51 AM

This was excellent. Enjoyed it a lot more than Avengers#1 (BP clocking the blond chick earns the issue an extra mark for me).

I loved how BP described the members of the Illuminati (Namor is the devil himself in T'Challa's eyes now).

This was a solid 9 out of 10 for me. It would have been an 8 but Epting's artwork elevated the issue for me.

**Brandon McKinnis** · 01-02-2013, 09:53 AM

Originally Posted by Songbird/Diamondback

See, I didn't care about anything that happened in Avengers 1. The Avengers charged in with no strategy, and they treat it like it was the biggest loss of the century. There was no emotional value, and it was continually trumpeting Captain America's horn.

I really didn't like Avengers 1, but New Avengers 1 has me fully behind Black Panther! I feel for the guy and now I want to see him succeed!

Excellent. Welcome to the club.

**USERNAME TAKEN** · 01-02-2013, 10:02 AM

Originally Posted by Songbird/Diamondback

Much better than Avengers 1.

Oh, most definitely.

**Test of Strength** · 01-02-2013, 10:11 AM

Really enjoyed this. Had this ominous tone that stuck around long after I read it.

As much as I love Hickman, I'm not that excited with Avengers, but with New Avengers I'm already looking forward to the next issue. Oh and Black Panther. F yeah.

**LeonardEugenius** · 01-02-2013, 10:14 AM

Much better than Avengers 1+2. My ONLY complaint is the last page with Cap and his effing shield. That moron does not need to be anywhere near the Illuminati.

**chariset** · 01-02-2013, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by LeonardEugenius

Much better than Avengers 1+2. My ONLY complaint is the last page with Cap and his effing shield. That moron does not need to be anywhere near the Illuminati.

Don't worry. He'll be out after the first arc, I guarantee it. Hickman said only one character (Iron Man) would be in Avengers and New Avengers.

Finally got to read it. A little disappointed that no one but Reed and Black Panther got lines, but there's another issue out this month. Loved all the world-building hints Hickman was dropping about a hungry god, and the Wheel, and the offering, and this whole religion of necessary evil that Black Swan serves. Plus she called herself "a black swan," which lends credence to the Black Swan Theory allusion

**Juggernaut Punch** · 01-02-2013, 10:31 AM

For those that are curious, I translated the Sumerian in this issue.

Page 10 :

"Ki Wassuru" : Ki means Earth and I'm presuming that "wassuru" is supposed to be "wussuru" which means abandon/release, which in the context would mean somthing like "abandon Earth".

"Sharur?" : Sharur means "supreme hunter". This may be referring to the one who's "appetite is endless". She's asking the soldier if he sees Sharur.

"Nuru ul sharur" : The soldier responds "nuru ul sharur". "Nuru" means light and "ul" is roughly translated as "the". "Nuru ul" means "see". The soldier is telling Black Swan that he sees the Supreme Hunter.

"Damiq" : Black Swan answers "damiq" which means "good".

Page 11

"Nadanu" : Black Swan tells Manifold "Nadanu" which means "give". She's telling him to give her the device.

Page 12

"Suharruru" : When Kimo greets her, Black Swan yells "suharruru" which means "be quiet".

"Rabum Alal" : which translates into "The Great Destroyer". He's the one that seems to be behind the "incursion" and whose "appetite is endless".

Page 13

"Ana simtum alaku" : After Black Panther tells her that he'd do more than try to stop her, she says "ana simtum alaku". "Simtum" by itself means fate and in the sentence Hickman is trying to convey, it ought to be "ana simtim alaku" which when translated word for word is something like "to go to ones fate" and means "die". Going by what Black Swan says next ("kill them"), she's either telling the Wakandans to die/go to their fate, or telling her soldiers to kill them.

Page 19

"Ana simtim alaku Ersetu" : We've already covered what "ana simtum alaku" means. "Ersetu" means Earth. She's saying "Die/Go to your fate, Earth".

Mad props to Hickman for including Sumerian. In my opinion Mesopotamian mythology is extremely under utilised in modern fiction.

Also, I'm sure someone's already mentioned this but I'm too lazy to scroll through the thread, so just incase no one has mentioned it, "Memento Mori", the sentence in the opening is latin for "remember your mortality".

**CMBMOOL** · 01-02-2013, 10:31 AM

I do hope Hickman recalls the other times that the Illuminati gotten together and how their actions nearly destoryed the world once or twice, especially after an issue like this.