Amazing Spider-Man ...recently....for me...

[SUPERECWFAN1]

I don't wanna read any spoilers to #700 people please do not mention them in this thread. Just wanna say that ok...


I have to admit before I make this thread I was very tough on Slott and Wacker on some of the things I had read in a Spider-Man series. I had gotten almost a lot of the Brand New Day storyline free from 546-580 basically. But the series was never a WOW....I must buy it. The execution with rotating writers was a nice concept but it lacked a real solid written direction for the character himself. The character seemed stuck and we had a lot of one note villains show up in time and leave. The only real hit of a villain was Mr. Negative.

I joked more happened to the supporting cast which was now very deep. I mean you had the Osborn's back , you had a new woman in Harry's life and more to Peter's life like Vinnie a cop and Carlie. It was likely the deepest supporting cast in a Spider-Man comic in years. Of course they threw in a mystery villain like Menace. Which was a pretty cool payoff in a way I later read.

But I grew bored after that and dropped the series. I of course came back for #600 and decided to pick up the series as they claimed the Sinister Six was gonna return , Mary Jane and Deadpool . I saw some horrible crap along the way which I called out .



Anyhow I tried 20 issues and beyond the Deadpool issue felt it lacked a hell of a lot and didn't spare to defend my stance to Wacker here. I'm sure if I pulled a thread search I could find our debates where we both felt different things for the Peter Parker character. I had thought well this is my end on Spider-Man. No more for me. I'll come back as a fan later. Then I read online the reaction to OMIT and felt ...this gotta be rock bottom. Its complete rock bottom as i read the story notes and how horrible the arc was received. (I did pity Wacker who got handed that plot)

That to me made me think for sure it was over. Of course then I heard about a new Hobgoblin coming and I was like...this is the final chance for Spider-Man for me. I done been burned twice it felt and was happy to be shocked that the arc was really good. I mean...damn good. No lie...I mean ...for me this was likely the best the Spider-Man title had been since Brand New Day launched and it made me wish that maybe they should have launched with this change in status quo for Peter Parker working for Max Modell , being Spider-Man and facing a new rogue in a new way. Plus it did a great thing borrowing from the past of Spider-Man history.



I read a few more issues and saw Venom was now revamped and they used Flash Thompson in a cool new way. I had long critiqued how Thompson was used in a nice story but then utterly had himself mocked for his sexual short comings and then had his legs cut off in the same issue. Then never showed up much after it. That ticked me off a lot . But now he was the new Venom and I was ok with it.

I never read Spider-Island and felt it was too big a story for me to get into and all. I plan to get it later....moving on.

I got some more issues after it and read the resolution of that and felt it was nice to see Peter Parker and MJ share a good moment. The stories after I got off and on but the real arc that brought me back was the Sinister Six reforming in a crazy Doctor Octopus scheme against the world. It was a solid fun arc and had Peter team with Silver Sable to end his plans. And it even teased Sable's death (which in comics , we never saw so she's alive more or less). I loved a villain team up scheme that is kooky. So it worked for me.

Then the next arc that made me a fan again was the Morbius and Lizard arc. That one was just tons of fun folks. It ranks right there with the Hobgoblin one and makes me wonder why they didn't launch BND so well with these stories. Peter tries to save Kurt Conners from the Lizard curse and realizes he can't. Nice. I am a fan of Morbius and the Lizard. So having both characters in a cool meaningful arc was great .

The next one was the battle of the Hobgoblin's ....the 1st one Kingsley vs the guy who killed his brother. That to me was a nice way to end it as the original Hobgoblin is impressed by this new kid. Believing he has skills that can be used , he gets to stay as Hobgoblin. Because he's running a villain business and gets a piece of it. Which was pretty cool. I enjoyed that.

The last 2-3 issues I have read is the start of the Doctor Octopus arc where he basically implants his brainwaves into Peter Parker. Which is such a fun , wacky silver age type story I chuckled. Because the resolution is simple and easy...Peter eventually will assume control...its his brain after all. But reading so far is fun and seeing the Trapster save him and bust him from jail made me laugh at realizing his life is in Paste Pot Pete's hands. HA HA...

In all it was really good to see the book crawl back from rock bottom of OMIT. It showed that a writer can rebound a series. I haven't read 700 yet but if its anything like we saw so far it should be good.

[batcowlives]

I hope you like it. I'm not gonna tell you how I feel about 700 but I was a lot like you and I've loved a lot of Spiderman stuff since Dan Slott became the writer and to be honest, I'm really curious about your reaction to 700

[SUPERECWFAN1]

I hope you like it. I'm not gonna tell you how I feel about 700 but I was a lot like you and I've loved a lot of Spiderman stuff since Dan Slott became the writer and to be honest, I'm really curious about your reaction to 700

Oh I will post it here...if it is as good as I hope or if its as bad (as i hope not) . Because Slott has done a good job since OMIT. Its like he took the book at the bottom of the crapper and raised it back up.

[Raphael Edwards]

Dan is my dude. Has been for years now, even before he came on to do Spider-Man, and his love for the characters is infectious.

I actually loved most of BND, and thought his Big Time run was...well, amazing. Outside of BKV's Y: The Last Man, Morrison's All Star Superman and We3 or Kirkman and Invincible and TWD at parts, comics haven't given me a bunch of moments where I genuinely caught lumps in my throat and shed a tear to what transpired in them as well as what Dan did in his run.

I too am interested in your reactions to 700.

[Leocomix]

Based on your past reactions, I'd be very surprised if you liked it.
It seems like the type of story that got people mad at Sins Past or OMD.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Based on your past reactions, I'd be very surprised if you liked it.
It seems like the type of story that got people mad at Sins Past or OMD.

I hope not....because it seemed like Slott was doing a hell of a job with the character and juggling everything and new/old villains. I'd hate to see it fail at #700. If it does I'll be very honest and critique it as usual. But I'd loved to be shocked and say...damn that issue was great and a way to end Amazing Spider-Man at #700. I will get it in a few weeks .

[Kevinroc]

The biggest problem I have with Slott's run is the dialogue. It can come across as overly expositional and stilted. (As an example of this, there's a scene just after Spider-Island where Glory runs into MJ at a club. They namedrop MJ's full name twice and Glory's full name once in a single page.)

Maybe he should put in little captions like other creators have sometimes done. (Some of Fraction's X-Men comics had some rather funny little asides as they were introducing us to the characters in any given issue.)

[SUPERECWFAN1]

The biggest problem I have with Slott's run is the dialogue. It can come across as overly expositional and stilted. (As an example of this, there's a scene just after Spider-Island where Glory runs into MJ at a club. They namedrop MJ's full name twice and Glory's full name once in a single page.)

Maybe he should put in little captions like other creators have sometimes done. (Some of Fraction's X-Men comics had some rather funny little asides as they were introducing us to the characters in any given issue.)

Fraction's captions did make me chuckle... because I think he had one for Magneto that was "Magneto - Former Mutant Terrorist Asshole."

[SUPERECWFAN1]

So I finally was able to pick up my Amazing Spider-Man #700....some thoughts..


- Yes its true it was a wild scheme to see Peter in Doc Ock's body trying to get to him. I loved the team up with the villains and them remarking how weird Ock's reacting. As the one jokes the Vulture himself started to lose it at one point not wanting people hurt and all. I did love that Paste Pot Pete figured out what Peter/Ock was doing. Him using his glue guns to do it.

- All through the issue you feel Ock is gonna be a bad guy completely. That he doesn't care really. That he will be looking out for #1. That he can finally have time for his achievements and all. But at the end as Peter uses the machine while dying he shows Ock all his memories. How he has lost so much and how he kept pushing to do the right thing. Ock feels like he doesn't deserve it now. That he's not worthy of being Spider-Man as Peter makes him take a vow to keep everyone safe and do what he did. Octto agrees to it realizing he has to do it now. He is Spider-Man.

- The scenes in heaven with Uncle Ben , telling Peter he has to fight on was very spot on and should have happened in OMD. That he can't stop now...that people need him and he will get a good deserved rest when its done. That to me should have been the scene where Peter faced down Mephisto.


Of course if anyone read the next story you kinda realize that Peter Parker isn't gonna be gone for long either.


- In that a very older Peter Parker watches over his great grand son. Peter's memories are frazzled due to time and age. But he reveals the responsibility he took as Spider-Man and when he finally retired as a hero. We see that Peter ends up with Mary Jane. The two have 2 kids and move off to Chicago to retire from the life he led. Nick Fury is shown and allowing Peter to have a new cover identity to get away. "It was a greater Responsibility to watch over my family..."

Now why do I think it was Peter ? Look at the dialogue. Its clear its Peter Parker fully. Not Octto. Its a great hint to fans.... this won't last long...Peter will be back soon.

In the end I believe by the time Amazing Spider-Man hits theaters in 2014/2015 , Peter Parker will be fully back.

[David Walton]

Fraction's captions did make me chuckle... because I think he had one for Magneto that was "Magneto - Former Mutant Terrorist Asshole."

Fraction must be a fan of Burn Notice.