Boycott Die Hard 5 IF PG-13

[SUPERECWFAN1]

I think they'll eventually reboot with a younger actor. No one can replace Harrison Ford...but someone could emerge with their own spin while staying as true to the character as possible.

Indy works best as a character in his mid to late 30s searching for mystical relics in the midst of World War II.

yep pretty true really.

[DennyK]

the whole aliens thing killed the concept

Some death, over $780,000,000 in worldwide gross earnings.

[kalorama]

It was explained that Paramount has the distribution rights as of right now. But considering Disney has great lawyers...they will work something out eventually .

They could have Perry Mason working for them and it wouldn't matter. The only way they could get Paramount to hand over the distribution rights would be to buy them and the value of owning those rights is worth a lot more to Paramount than whatever Disney would/could be able to pay for them.

[David Walton]

If McClane having a smoke or a beer is what makes it Die Hard to you them I'm sorry. Let's ask this, in the context of Die Hard 4 when would John have even had a moment to stop for a smoke or a drink? The answer is he didnt, Die Hard 4 is fairly fast paced and has McClane constantly jumping from location to location stopping the bad guys. Having John stop to get some smokes would ruin the pacing of the movie and wouldn't serve any purpose to the plot anyway. Secondly, regarding the language, besides the language everything else in Die Hard was already pretty "light R Rating" stuff. And barely R Rated stuff back in the days of the original Die Hard are the equivalent to a heavy PG-13 movie these days. I've watched the unrated version of Die Hard 4, and honestly the added swearing McClane does in that movie feels out of place and forced. In the other Die Hards his profanity was a bit more natural.

Yeah. I made the point earlier that John tells Oliphant's character that he killed his 'bitch,' so it's hardly like he's gone soft.

[SephirothDZX]

Yeah, because the supernatural has never had any place in the Indiana Jones franchise, not even when he was looking for the lost ark of the covenant. Yoookaayyyyyy

Supernatural is not the same as extraterrestrial. Indy 4 might have been a lot better off if they never actually showed the aliens or their space ship, and preserve the mystery of the beings a little bit. Actually showing the ship/aliens would have been the equivalent of Indy meeting/talking to God after opening the Ark, or meeting Jesus after drinking the Holy Grail.

My biggest problem with Indy 4 is that Indy is pretty much ultimately meaningless to the final ending of the movie.

[Legato]

Well, God did show up at the end of Raiders...but I get what you're saying. It's not like He walked out of the clouds with his giant white beard and winked at Indy or anything.

That's what I mean. At least in Raiders they made the reveal subtle but in Crystal Skull there was nothing subtle about the alien reveal.

[SephirothDZX]

That's what I mean. At least in Raiders they made the reveal subtle but in Crystal Skull there was nothing subtle about the alien reveal.

At best they should have kept the crystal skulls mystical items kind of like the stones from Temple of Doom, and drop hints that they're extraterrestrial but never actually explicitly say or show aliens.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Some death, over $780,000,000 in worldwide gross earnings.

And making profits doesn't mean a lick bit of quality and reaction from the fanbase. Hell 2012 as a movie made $700+ million worldwide... but its pretty shitty and a by the numbers end of the world flick.

They could have Perry Mason working for them and it wouldn't matter. The only way they could get Paramount to hand over the distribution rights would be to buy them and the value of owning those rights is worth a lot more to Paramount than whatever Disney would/could be able to pay for them.

Don't ever doubt the power of Disney....and its legal team. If they can make it happen...they will.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

That's what I mean. At least in Raiders they made the reveal subtle but in Crystal Skull there was nothing subtle about the alien reveal.

And that is why it is so mocked. I get it made a lot of money...but so does a lot of horrible shit that gets called out.

[kalorama]

Don't ever doubt the power of Disney....and its legal team. If they can make it happen...they will.

You want some power not to doubt? Try the power of money. And the money to be made through ownership of the rights to the Indy franchise trumps whatever Disney has to offer Paramount. Because, aside from money, they have no legal grounds to challenge Paramount's ownership of the rights.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

You want some power not to doubt? Try the power of money. And the money to be made through ownership of the rights to the Indy franchise trumps whatever Disney has to offer Paramount. Because, aside from money, they have no legal grounds to challenge Paramount's ownership of the rights.

We will see what the future holds. Because eventually its gonna happen at some point and we will see what happens.

[Simbob4000]

The parts that actually matter to most of the audience will be there. Die Hard is not Friday the 13th. Blood and gore are not the primary attractions/selling points of the film franchise. Action, humor, and the hero triumphing over outrageous odds are, and all of those elements from the first 3 can easily exist in a PG-13 rating.

It isn't Friday the 13th, but it wasn't geriatric bullshit either, Die Hard wasn't PG-13 bloodless action. Sometime in Die Hard people died hard, and they said "fuck" while they were doing it.

I plan to support Die Hard in every way...even if its PG-13. And unlike the Last Stand...which looks tired really....this one has more fun it seems. The previews showed what us action fans want...ACTION. Bullets flying , crazy action sequences and more . So we will go see it.

The Last Stand is being made by one of the best directors working today, A Good Day to Die Hard is being made by the guy who did The Omen remake, and the writer of X‑Men Origins: Wolverine & Hitman

[kalorama]

We will see what the future holds. Because eventually its gonna happen at some point and we will see what happens.

There's nothing to see. Paramount owns the rights and Disney has no legal challenge to that ownership. If/when whatever contract Paramount signed to acquire the rights expires, then Disney might outbid them for them. Probably will. But until then, there's really nothing Disney can do about it.

[kalorama]

It isn't Friday the 13th, but it wasn't geriatric bullshit either, Die Hard wasn't PG-13 bloodless action. Sometime in Die Hard people died hard, and they said "fuck" while they were doing it.

Plenty of people died in Live Free. And they're dead, so what difference does it make what they said while they were dying.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

The Last Stand is being made by one of the best directors working today, A Good Day to Die Hard is being made by the guy who did The Omen remake, and the writer of X‑Men Origins: Wolverine & Hitman

The trailers I see for the Last Stand is a generic action/buddy film where Arnold works with Johnny Knoxville. I mean there is nothing in those trailers that make me wanna watch it. Even if its by the best director going today.

There's nothing to see. Paramount owns the rights and Disney has no legal challenge to that ownership. If/when whatever contract Paramount signed to acquire the rights expires, then Disney might outbid them for them. Probably will. But until then, there's really nothing Disney can do about it.

Oh for now...because they said for now they don't plan on anything there. The main focus is Star Wars in 2015.