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    Quote Originally Posted by jmresp View Post
    There will be no REBOOT while Stan Lee is still alive.

    That why we are freazing him and placing him next to Disney until his cyborgnetic body no longer craves the blood of Cubans children......
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    If Marvel reboots Spider-Man, I'm gone. I have no desire to see Peter Parker get bitten by a radioactive spider again. Been there, done that.

    If Marvel wants to change things up, then get new creative teams with fresh ideas. Which is pretty much what they've done with Marvel NOW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JGC View Post
    If Marvel reboots Spider-Man, I'm gone. I have no desire to see Peter Parker get bitten by a radioactive spider again. Been there, done that.

    If Marvel wants to change things up, then get new creative teams with fresh ideas. Which is pretty much what they've done with Marvel NOW.
    What if Marvel gets the Spider bitten by a radioactive Peter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gokuson View Post
    Do you think that with all the recent mess such as with issue 700 and past events such as OMD, that it is time to do a full reboot of Spider-man. It can be similar to that of the Star Trek reboot films in which the past continuity is still part of the story and honoured but still allowes for a fresh start. Should it be done after Superior Spiderman finishes? Maybe involving mephisto? Do you agree or not?
    A Star Trek reboot type for Spider-man would have to be something big like Uncle Ben not dying. Which would be interesting but I don't think many fanboys would like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Thompson View Post
    At this point, I think the entire MU might benefit from a reboot.

    I agree with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tendrin View Post
    The problem with a full reboot is that you will never get all the authors on the same page about what will be in or not in continuity. Look at the New 52 or post-Crisis DCU, for example. Some properties got full reboots. Others did not. Everything went into a confusing spiral from there where some things were still in continuity and other things were not.

    Lesson is: If you're gonna reboot, *soft* reboots are probably your best bet as opposed to full ones.
    A full reboot, by definition, means that nothing is in continuity. New 52 was a soft reboot.
    In my opinion is implied in every post. Please make an effort to remember that.

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    Reboots are kind of stupid.

    I think with a story going on as long as Spidey's, you have to squint a little, and I'm fine with that.

    This is really obvious when it comes to stuff like Flash being in Vietnam etc. Those kinds of things don't matter really. The past was cloudy and we don't know the full truth.

    I like to think of ASM 1-40 being always and forever the foundation of continuity. Whatever happens, those issues happened, pretty much how they were presented then. And there are other events - you know the list - that will always be in continuity. And then, always, whatever happened recently really happened, in full. At the moment, Slott's Big Time run happened exactly as it was depicted. Every detail is true. And probably much of the previous 100 issues happened too. Before that, you can pick and choose. By now, Sin's Past is either in or out of continuity, whichever you prefer. Eventually only certain bits of Big Time will definitely be in continuity, but even the facts that will remain will become foggy.

    I'm totally comfortable with a constantly shifting version of continuity, with only the classic stories and the recent past being set in stone. For example, Spidey's defeated Mysterio, to pick a random example, probably 20 times so far, which is just ridiculous - get a new job Mysterio! - but I like to think that when Mysterio turns up again I'll be able to be a good reader and pretend he has a chance. Every previous battle kind of exists and kind of doesn't at the same time.

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    Ive been saying it since BND.

    That should just have been a complete reset instead of this weird run-around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobey View Post
    A Star Trek reboot type for Spider-man would have to be something big like Uncle Ben not dying. Which would be interesting but I don't think many fanboys would like it.
    Might have had Aunt May get shot and die -- and that might be interesting to explore. There was an old What If...? story that was structured around that some years ago.
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    I'm personally like the idea of rebooting the MU, but I don't know what it would really do for the company right now, as the creative teams would be unlikely to change, and it's the creative teams of the moment that I'm just not particularly enjoying at Marvel.
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    I think reboots are unnecessary, and only serve for a short term sales boost.

    look at the Ultimate universe. it's just as complicated now as any other superhero continuity. if you reboot it, then you'll just need to do another reboot in 10 years, and then another. look at DC if you need proof.

    and now DC has the problem (for those that care about such things) of "which history is the one that counts"

    if Marvel and DC do their jobs right, no reboot should ever be needed. whatever crazy direction you want to take Batman or Spider-Man in, as long as you return them back to square one when you're done, you're fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Smith View Post
    I think reboots are unnecessary, and only serve for a short term sales boost.
    The folks in charge of the James Bond and Star Trek franchises might disagree with you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Thompson View Post
    Might have had Aunt May get shot and die -- and that might be interesting to explore. There was an old What If...? story that was structured around that some years ago.
    There's been two What Ifs that deal with that concept now...and both sort of played with idea that Uncle Ben would have a stronger hand in Peter's life.

    I don't think Marvel should reboot...they're currently the only company you can go to that has fifty years of uninterrupted continuity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Thompson View Post
    The folks in charge of the James Bond and Star Trek franchises might disagree with you.


    Bond is playing fast and lose with continuity. (Seriouly Sky Fall is a apperntly direct Prequel to Dr.No)

    And JJ Star trek is an AltUniverse ( they even said so in the moive) So the Prime universe is exists and can be used
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    Quote Originally Posted by David Walton View Post
    I don't think Marvel should reboot...they're currently the only company you can go to that has fifty years of uninterrupted continuity.
    And I think it seems the only reason they are holding to that is so they can continue making that claim -- not because it is doing much of anything for them.
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