BATMAN INCORPORATED #6 Preview/Discussion

**darkseidpwns** · 12-31-2012, 11:14 PM

Originally Posted by Officersmile1466

Read this one last week. If we exclude the half hearted zero issue, vol 2 has been on a massive hot streak. The fill in artist is barely noticeable and it's only four pages in the middle of the issue. His art style is pretty much identical to Burnham's just minus his scratchy line work. If I hadn't seen a fill in artist credited at the start I wouldn't have known any better.

I absolutely love Morrison's little "Can't we just have a conversation like normal people?" line

Is there any major development in this issue?

**Officersmile1466** · 01-01-2013, 07:18 AM

Originally Posted by darkseidpwns

Is there any major development in this issue?

spoilers:

If you're majorly invested in the story that Morrison is drawing to a close in Inc then you'll find it amazing. I wouldn't say there's any massive game changing moments in it but reading it feels like a heap of different things he's been juggling steadily click into place. Doctor Deadalus gets a call back and a mysterious new element that's been mentioned on and off in Vol 1 gets a shout out, possibly indicating that it's going to come into play soon. What Morrison is clearly playing with is who exactly the future Damian from 666 will be. On one hand Damian gets a kitten he names Alfred in this issue but on the other hand Talia outright states that Future Damian isn't "our" Damian, but seems to heavily imply that Heretic will play that role. Plus we now seem to have confirmation from the discussions on these boards last month that the third batman from Bruce's nightmare way back in the early issues of Morrison's run was the 666 future. (Meaning that Micheal Lane now seems to have become elaborate misdirection). The cliffhanger from issue 5 is handled in a pretty interesting way. It's hard to tell how it'll all play out, but if what we see is true then expect a pretty major demise for a long running Morrison character. The issue ends on a pretty exciting note that seems to indicate it's going to get all out in the next two issues.

end of spoilers

**ViewtifulJC** · 01-01-2013, 08:35 AM

Batman Inc has only 5 issues the entire year, sells a lot less than Snyder's Batman, and isn't involved with all the big crossovers with the rest of the line(all the Owls shit, now this Death in the Family stuff). It's becomes irrelevant. Morrison's Batman has gone from being the best-selling, most talked about Batman book on the stand to...kinda just off in own world.

Frankly, I'm shocked whenever I see it on a Best of 2012 list, which isn't very often.

**Sailor Moon** · 01-01-2013, 08:39 AM

I say that's not a huge surprise. I think it was clear coming into the New 52 that Snyder's Batman was the flagship book, and cancelling Inc. without rebooting it along with the rest of the Bat-titles didn't help. Irrelevant, I don't know about that, though. It still sells pretty well.

**ViewtifulJC** · 01-01-2013, 08:45 AM

True, but all of the main Batman titles(Batman, Detective Comics, Batman and Robin, Batman: The Dark Knight, Batman Inc), it's the worst-selling one. I mean, the sales are pretty consistent to what it used to be, but being in it's own little universe and the constant delays has killed alot of it's momentum.

Also, holy SHIT why do we need FIVE Batman ongoings

**Sailor Moon** · 01-01-2013, 08:48 AM

Oh wow, does it really sell less than all of those others? That is pretty surprising. But yeah, I guess it all comes down to the fact that this is (noticeably) late finish to Morrison's run.

**DrSimonHurt** · 01-01-2013, 10:49 AM

Originally Posted by ViewtifulJC

Batman Inc has only 5 issues the entire year, sells a lot less than Snyder's Batman, and isn't involved with all the big crossovers with the rest of the line(all the Owls shit, now this Death in the Family stuff). It's becomes irrelevant. Morrison's Batman has gone from being the best-selling, most talked about Batman book on the stand to...kinda just off in own world.

Frankly, I'm shocked whenever I see it on a Best of 2012 list, which isn't very often.

I don't really care about hype. Batman INC is the real Batman. Problem is that hype sells to fair-weather readers and Marvel jumpovers, so it will sell better overall. At least Morrison's books never had something as silly as a diecut cover over every issue.

Snyder is a great writer, but this current story event is a tad humiliating IMO.

**suss2it** · 01-01-2013, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by ViewtifulJC

True, but all of the main Batman titles(Batman, Detective Comics, Batman and Robin, Batman: The Dark Knight, Batman Inc), it's the worst-selling one. I mean, the sales are pretty consistent to what it used to be, but being in it's own little universe and the constant delays has killed alot of it's momentum.

Also, holy SHIT why do we need FIVE Batman ongoings

Because people love Batman.

**Captain Jim** · 01-01-2013, 01:48 PM

Originally Posted by ViewtifulJC

Batman Inc has only 5 issues the entire year

That's simply not true. This volume of the title (post Flashpoint) has never missed a month, other than the issue that was intentionally held back after the tragedy in Colorado.

**jgiannantoni05** · 01-01-2013, 01:54 PM

Great posts Quinnhop. Wonderful contributions and analysis.

So excited. Again and again, best comic on the shelves. Brilliant.

I'm gonna do huge massive posts on the whole run on here or on a blog. Recent INC issues have shown me the need to wait until this epic superstory is finished.

**Captain Jim** · 01-01-2013, 02:10 PM

Originally Posted by jgiannantoni05

I'm gonna do huge massive posts on the whole run on here or on a blog. Recent INC issues have shown me the need to wait until this epic superstory is finished.

I'm sure we'd love to see it here.

Are you thinking of both volumes of this title, or only the current one?

**BatWatch** · 01-01-2013, 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by J/O/J/O

Good theory.
The other baby was seen at the end of Batman vs Robin were Talia shows it to Damian and gives him in the ultimatum of joining her or being her enemy.Since that still in continuity I believe that's still in play.

Huh. I read that, but I do not remember that scene. Interesting. Also glad you like me theory. I think it makes sense with everything. I don't see any piece that don't fit.

Originally Posted by AJM

He is her son – and Batman's – he's most likely another child made with Bruce and Talia's DNA, as we saw in Batman And Robin #12.

Preview looks great, very much looking forward to this. Slightly concerned they need a fill-in artist though – to be honest, i'd rather it was delayed.

Has their relationship been established in a previous issue? I have nor read this volume of Batman Inc. 1-3. If he is a son of Bruce and Talia's without time travel, how can he be so old? An aging process? Also if I am wrong in my theory, why spend an entire issue focusing on future Damian?

**nathanfairbairn** · 01-01-2013, 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by Captain Jim

That's simply not true. This volume of the title (post Flashpoint) has never missed a month, other than the issue that was intentionally held back after the tragedy in Colorado.

Thanks for pointing this out, Jim. It bugs the hell out of me to read people claim that this volume of Inc suffers from 'constant delays'. The creative team has hit every deadline we've been given on the book. It's not our fault some lunatic shot up a movie theatre.