View Poll Results: Keep old 52 at expense of Lois and Clark's marriage, or give them a happy ending

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  • Keep old 52, risk losing their marriage

    6 30.00%
  • Let old 52 Lois and Clark have a happy ending at the expense of losing the old 52

    14 70.00%
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  1. #16
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    That was true. They were officially split apart by then.

    Anyway, I would rather not have had the reboot and have the marriage written well. But since DC editorial decided to reboot, rather than divorce or worse pull a OMD story, I think that they made the best choice without weakening the characters. At least DiDio didn't make his feelings on the matter public until the reboot went into effect, unlike Quesada who couldn't keep his trap shut on the subject since the start of his E-I-C tenure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fate's Faith View Post
    Well, don't think the poll makes much sense to me so didn't vote. So I'm going to speak to what the reboot to no marriage has done so far. Its Superman #14 (I believe) where we see the friendship between the two very much in play better than I've ever remembered it.
    Yes, of course, the friendship was portrayed so well in that issue. You know, the one where Clark admits to himself that it was probably wrong to spy on Lois' private text messages and makes two inappropriate remarks about her sex life. Or the part where Lobdell writes Lois as a completely different person than she was two issues ago because she now thinks it is more reasonable to assume Clark is mad about the state of their friendship than he is about journalistic integrity. Lois and Clark's friendship has been written far better than that even within the last decade.

    Clark mad about her moving in with Christopher.
    His name is Jonathan. Isn't fantastic that the writers have taken care to write a love interest for Lois that is so well rendered and memorable?

    Her wanting to know why he's not telling her of the new woman she believes he has in his life. Apparently, their friendship now doesn't shy away from them each thinking of the other as potential partners. But the time just isn't right. Lois didn't want Clark to stop her from moving in and even mentions he's probably the only one that could. I think the friendship is much deeper here including it seems to me the fear of damaging it by taking the step to moving it to something more.
    I don't mind a slow burn or both characters dealing with a little denial of feelings, but Lobdell's handling of that sort of dynamic leaves much to be desired. There are these moments when things just get pushed too far (e.g. the spying, the booty call comment, etc.). I would have preferred Lobdell have written that scene in Superman #14 to have the same sparks of denial but with a little more focus on the issue of integrity in journalism. Just a few months ago, Lois was lecturing Morgan Edge on the pitfalls of infotainment and getting the facts straight, but now she's asking Clark to apologize to him?

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    Can't they just eventually get together again in the Nu52?
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    Sure, but I think most realize that won't happen for a while. And that's just dating. Actually being married is something that could very well never happen again, so I can understand those who still supported it lamenting its loss.
    Last edited by Sacred Knight; 01-11-2013 at 12:59 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misslane38 View Post
    I prefer reboots to divorces.
    Me, too.

    Quote Originally Posted by misslane38 View Post
    Superman stories, I believe, should be told in 20-25 year cycles. Each generation should have a version of Superman to call its own. But the key is to write stories within those generational cycles that progress Superman and his supporting cast. Every age of Superman should be a separate hero's journey.
    Agree, agree, agree and agree. I don't often agree with you, but here it happened five times in one post. Weird.

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    I didn't vote in this poll, didn't like either option. I simply don't agree with the notion that Superman and Lois Lane are destined to hook up in every telling/ re telling of the story. It's not written in concrete, so to speak. There are other ways of portraying these characters, and telling their stories.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Frozen Reptile View Post
    Why not bring back the old "Mrs. Superman" imaginary stories? (Just kidding. Old Silver/Bronze Age fanatic here.)
    Uh, . . . they weren't "Imaginary" at one point; they were stories about the Earth 2 Clark and Lois.
    http://forums.comicbookresources.com...-Superman-quot

    Quote Originally Posted by The Frozen Reptile View Post
    Honestly, they will end up together again. Clark already shows the seeds of liking her. She cares for Clark (as a friend) already, but they are writing her (as they should) as a woman of her times (where she is wrapped up in her little bubble, like everybody is...there's a reason this is called "Generation Me.") She showed she was worried about his negative opinion by not telling him that she was moving in with her boyfriend. Superman already rescues her a lot, even when on dates with Diana. No one does that unless they are way to noble or they have "deep feelings".

    Besides, if this doesn't happen, a large part of the mythos will be lost and the movies would not make any sense anymore.
    Wait . . . are DC comics suppose to make sense these days?
    Last edited by MajorHoy; 01-11-2013 at 06:51 PM.
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