Would Two-Face really harm a child?

[stk]

I can't remember. If he did, they were corrupt. If Harvey's an anti-hero in that universe, he shouldn't be going after kids because they are innocent. Isn't there like a code for anti-heroes like no harming innocent women and children or something?

You don't seem to get the concept of his coin.

[Mat001]

Harvey's choice of victims were all those who were involved. Jim was targeted because he refused to listen to Harvey about Wertz and Ramirez. So he blamed Jim for Rachel's death and to punish Jim, he was going to take away the person that mattered most. James Jr., just happened to be that one. It was also a nod to "Year One", where Bruce saved Jim's son and thus earned his respect.

[robowizard]

In the movie "Dark Knight", Two-face puts a gun up to Gordon's son's head. I understand he is angry and wants to punish those responisble for his fiance's death, but would he really shoot an innocent child just to punish Gordon?

Yes. The death of Rachel had driven him to the point of insanity. He would of murdered Jim's entire family if it punished Gordon.

And He almost killed a child in crime and punishment.

[refrax5]

One of the biggest flaws in that film is how flimsy and hard to swallow Two-Face's motives are.

[stk]

One of the biggest flaws in that film is how flimsy and hard to swallow Two-Face's motives are.

That's good news then, because they were neither flimsy nor hard to swallow.

[Mat001]

One of the biggest flaws in that film is how flimsy and hard to swallow Two-Face's motives are.

How so? Harvey says it right from the start that he doesn't trust Jim's men, even though he trusts him. We see Wertz let the Joker in to Bruce's penthouse. Harvey says that Rachel got in the car with someone that she trusted and that was Ramirez, who was on the take because of her mother. The Joker points out that he could kill him and be done with it, or he could go after the ones that let it happen. Which was Maroni, Jim, Ramirez and Wertz. Maroni was the one who had Wertz and Ramirez in his back pocket to begin with. Wertz was the one who took Harvey and Ramirez was the one who took Rachel, to where they were tied up. Jim was the one who refused to believe that his men weren't anything but dirty.

[BatWatch]

I can't think of any time Two-Face singled out a child in particular in the comics, and I think it would be generally out of character for him, but he has never gone out of his way to avoid harming kids either, and he injures, kills, and maims people quite a bit. I would not be surprised if Harvey killed a kid.

One of the biggest flaws in that film is how flimsy and hard to swallow Two-Face's motives are.

I figured he just went crazy with rage and wanted to make others' suffer. There is definitely some self loathing going on as well. I think sometimes people get so full of pain they want to share it with others. That's one of my theories behind the mass killers.

Now if you want to talk TDKR, then you find some serious plot holes.

[David Walton]

I don't think his actions within the context of the film are that controversial, since it's the product of a cohesive vision.

If you ask whether Harvey would kill a kid in the comics, you might find some authors who wouldn't go there since he's one of the more sympathetic villains. That said, he emerged as Dick Grayson Robin's greatest fear in the 90s (retroactively, I think, in Prodigal.)

[geek1939]

I don't think his actions within the context of the film are that controversial, since it's the product of a cohesive vision.

If you ask whether Harvey would kill a kid in the comics, you might find some authors who wouldn't go there since he's one of the more sympathetic villains. That said, he emerged as Dick Grayson Robin's greatest fear in the 90s (retroactively, I think, in Prodigal.)

Yeah, I was about to mention this. He nearly beat Dick Grayson to death with a baseball bat in Robin: Year One. Movie is different, I guess, but comic book Two Face has no real compunction with at least severely beating a child.

[Greg Anderson]

[Greg Anderson]

[Guy1]

In the movie "Dark Knight", Two-face puts a gun up to Gordon's son's head. I understand he is angry and wants to punish those responisble for his fiance's death, but would he really shoot an innocent child just to punish Gordon?

Eh, fifty/fifty.