"Peter Parker fans will fade away" (ASM #700 and SSM Spoilers)

[Raphael Edwards]

^ Yeah, I'm pretty much over this now, heh.

I think I was going through the stages of depression and now have moved to acceptance after giving things more thought and listening to Slott on Word Balloon lol

[Mister Mets]

I guess (and that did help with my google search) . . . but he still did say this



All I'm saying is that calling the current status quo "permanent" is no less finite than saying the Unmasking won't be undone with a forget-me ray.

That's been discussed numerous times on the board. If you look again, the only direct quote is the Bobby Ewing one. The forget-me ray comment is part of a paraphrase.

[DV1Band]

I don't know. I just get this weird feeling that things won't get undone this time, or will after many years have past...

[RyanParkerMan]

Ryan is one of the most thoughtful and cool posters here and all-around awesome guy.

Pblimp, I know you don't wanna hear "PP will be back in a year" but I have to say that----by and large----when these dramatic moves are made to shake up a title, they usually result in increased dramatic tension, new story situations and---most importantly---a renewed appreciation for our hero when he returns (and he usually returns somewhat changed with a new mindset/approach).

So----I guess what I'm saying is these sort of shakeups are really kind of necessary every so often or else the characters all fall prey to the dreaded staleness. No one is immune----not even the great Stan Lee who was in a creative lull late in his run on ASM and gave our hero 6 arms only to leave the title for a few months, returned and wrote some pretty bland issues before Gerry Conway came on and killed off Gwen to ---wait for it----shake things up. It's all part of the comic book "circle of life", man. Hang in there and I hope you dig it again when PP is back, if not sooner.

Well said oldschool. Especially the opening sentence!

[DV1Band]

You're right, but doing stuff to shake things up and doing stuff for shock value is way different. I liked the story of Spidey with six arms... the whole man-spider thing was interesting. I really want Peter or Ben back.

[Charmed1]

Well said oldschool. Especially the opening sentence!

You are the first fan iif the storyline that treated this new poster with respect and gave reasons that almost made me want to read on. When guys like Wacker and Smith are posting stuff that makes me never want to read marvel again I really appreciate that.

[DV1Band]

I kinda get where you're coming from Charmed1...

[RyanParkerMan]

You are the first fan iif the storyline that treated this new poster with respect and gave reasons that almost made me want to read on. When guys like Wacker and Smith are posting stuff that makes me never want to read marvel again I really appreciate that.

Thanks for the kind words. I've been into comics for a long time and I love Spider-Man. He's my favorite character in all of fiction. I know you guys love him too. I know how it feels to disagree with a major status quo change. It sucks. We all grew up reading this great character. That's why comics, and Spider-Man in particular is so special and unique. He aged. We aged. We're on our journeys and he's on his. But it's important to be respectful when it comes to how we critique the book. When I was upset about omd, and never considered the difficult place the new creators were in. I never really considered them at all. When we critique the book, we need to do it respectfully. It's the only way they hear us. The only way we can get a point across. When fans say outrageous things, Steve and Dan don't take them seriously. Why should they? And it's counterproductive to the fan base because that poster might have a legitimate point somewhere in his argument.

[DV1Band]

I get what Dan Slott is trying to do, I just don't like the way that he approached it...

[Noronha]

Of course not!
It´s easy to tell the difference between trying to do something permanent to the character or just part of a bigger story arc.

Just look at the clone saga, everybody from the beggining understood what the stakes were. They went out of their way to make Ben Reilly the new-true-to-it´s-roots spider-man, whilst at the same time trying to make PP look incredibly bad, making decisions that were completely against the core of the character.

And when they actually did it, they at least tried to give Ben his own cast of characters and his own world.

Now?They want us "to fade away", and how do they do it?They basically give us PP´s body, with same exact memories and the same world and the same cast of characters! It´s just doesn´t have that feeling...

Besides if you´re really trying to create a legacy character(which IMO SM is the worst possible hero to attempt this), at least try doing it in a way that could work, the same way that´s being done in USM(i´ll just have to assume this because i quit once the killed that PP).

So PP fans are not going to fade away, that´s just not going to happen anytime soon and Slott and Wacker know it better than anyone.
Heck, if they really thought that way than, if were them, i´d start thinking of a new career outside comics...

[The Angry Comic Book Critic]

Of course not!
It´s easy to tell the difference between trying to do somenthing permanent to the character or just part of a bigger story arc.

Just look at the clone saga, everybody from the beggining understood what the stakes were. They went out of their way to make Ben Reilly the new-true-to-it´s-roots spider-man, whilst at the same time trying to make PP look incredibly bad, making decisions that were completely against the core of the character.

And when they actually did it, they at least tried to give Ben his own cast of charcters and his own world.

Now?They want us "to fade away", and how do they do it?They basically give us PP´s body, with same exact memories and the same world and the same cast of characters! It´s just doesn´t have that feeling...

Besides if you´re really trying to create a legacy character(which IMO SM is the worst possible hero to attempt this), at least try doing in a way that could work, the same way that´s being done in USM(i´ll just have to assume this because i quit once the killed that PP).

So PP fans are not going to fade away, that´s just not going to happen anytime soon and Slott and Wacker know better than anyone.
Heck, the they really thought that way than, if were them, i´d start thinking of a new career outside comics...

Agreed Honestly I find the phrase "Peter Parker fans will fade away" Highly insulting to me as a fan and a customer so as homer simpson put it I say this to marvel....

[oldschool]

Thanks for the kind words. I've been into comics for a long time and I love Spider-Man. He's my favorite character in all of fiction. I know you guys love him too. I know how it feels to disagree with a major status quo change. It sucks. We all grew up reading this great character. That's why comics, and Spider-Man in particular is so special and unique. He aged. We aged. We're on our journeys and he's on his. But it's important to be respectful when it comes to how we critique the book. When I was upset about omd, and never considered the difficult place the new creators were in. I never really considered them at all. When we critique the book, we need to do it respectfully. It's the only way they hear us. The only way we can get a point across. When fans say outrageous things, Steve and Dan don't take them seriously. Why should they? And it's counterproductive to the fan base because that poster might have a legitimate point somewhere in his argument.

As always, well-said, Ryan!