Does it make sense for Dr. Doom to have his own movie!?

[CaptCleghorn]

i don't think it will happen, but I wouldn't mind seeing it, done well.. a superhero-culture "Hannibal Lecter" movie.. get Christopher Priest to write it..

After Priest's political stylings of his Panther series and some of the Latverian politics from Doom's Astonishing Tales series, a Doom movie with him gaining the Latverian throne through politics, magic and comic-book science could be a very viable movie in itself with at most a Reed Richards cameo/flashback.

[Ood Omega]

www.rottentomatoes.com/m/hannibal_rising/‎

Rating: 15% - 143 reviews
Average Rating: 3.5/10. Critic Reviews: 36. Fresh: 2 | Rotten: 34. Hannibal Rising reduces the horror icon to a collection of dime-store psychological traits.

Link is broken. Also is the quality of the movie really the issue?

[Monty_Cristo]

Link is broken. Also is the quality of the movie really the issue?

it's not a link. i copy and pasted that from a google search.

and, yes, the quality of the movie is the only issue! Doom's already failed once as a movie character. you want to risk his stock with a second loss?

[Ood Omega]

yes, the quality of the movie is the only issue! Doom's already failed once as a movie character.

More than once if you count the Roger Corman film. I actually like Joseph Culp as Doctor Doom despite the movie's quality.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWxo1VV3QyY

you want to risk his stock with a second loss?

I just don't understand that attitude. By that logic they would have stopped making Batman films after Schumacher's Batman & Robin.

Quality of course is entirely subjective and pointing out that one character had a shitty origin movie doesn't negate that fact that it has been done successfully in the past.

How did those origin movies work out for Anakin Skywalker? Multimillion dollar blocker busters regardless if any of the films were sub par.

[Monty_Cristo]

More than once if you count the Roger Corman film. I actually like Joseph Culp as Doctor Doom despite the movie's quality.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWxo1VV3QyY



I just don't understand that attitude. By that logic they would have stopped making Batman films after Schumacher's Batman & Robin.

Quality of course is entirely subjective and pointing out that one character had a shitty origin movie doesn't negate that fact that it has been done successfully in the past.

How did those origin movies work out for Anakin Skywalker? Multimillion dollar blocker busters regardless if any of the films were sub par.

you brought up Hannibal Rising as evidence that they could make an origin movie about a villain. i pointed out that the movie didn't do very well. would Batman and Robin have done better if it were primarily a Riddler origin movie?

[Ood Omega]

would Batman and Robin have done better if it were primarily a Riddler origin movie?

I'm not sure what you mean by this. I pointed out Batman & Robin as an example of bad superhero film making when you said this.

you want to risk his stock with a second loss?

If movie studios thought like that why would they continue to reboot franchises. IMO they don't have that attitude.

Also a film being an origin movie has little or nothing to do a films success. Not sure what point you're trying to make by shoehorning a Riddler origin into Batman & Robin. (Didn't he have an origin story Batman Forever though? Didn't B&R include a Poison Ivy origin?)

[Monty_Cristo]

Also a film being an origin movie has little or nothing to do a films success.

i'm thinking beyond the movies. but y'know what? i hate doom. so i don't really care if they take the risk with a solo movie. good luck with that.

Not sure what point you're trying to make by shoehorning a Riddler origin into Batman & Robin. (Didn't he have an origin story Batman Forever though? Didn't B&R include a Poison Ivy origin?)

way over your head. what i'm trying to get you to see is that Doom's importance in the movie-verse is dependent on the Fantastic Four. a Doom solo movie will not work especially if he is introduced before the Fantastic Four. you said that Batman & Robin was a poor product. i'm saying that a Riddler solo movie would have been a worse product.

[Silvermoth]

Not until the rights for him come back to Marvel

[Iron Maiden]

Not until the rights for him come back to Marvel

I hear ya. Fox had their chance. I am hoping their FF movie miraculously gets shelved and the rights lapse. Their handling of the X-Men has been spotty. Storm has pretty much been wallpaper, or just about any other character whose name doesn't start with Wolverine. I wonder if they regret killing off Scott Summers since he's had a boost these past few years. They also messed up what could have been a great superhero tragedy/love story with Scott and Jean.

[DebkoX]

I agree, FOX should not have it.

[Ood Omega]

what i'm trying to get you to see is that Doom's importance in the movie-verse is dependent on the Fantastic Four.

Thanks for clarifying. See I actually disagree with that. I think Dr. Doom could support his own solo film. The Fantastic Four aren't really an integral part of his origin story, other than Reed and that's only if the script closely follows his origin from Fantastic Four Annual #2. Although it is very likely a Dr. Doom solo movie wouldn't be a box office success. I still think it could be an interesting, well made film.

a Doom solo movie will not work especially if he is introduced before the Fantastic Four.

Ideally I would release a Fantastic Four movie, then a Dr. Doom solo movie then a Fantastic Four Vs Dr. Doom film. I think that would make for an interesting trilogy. Sorry if I wasn't clearer about that in my OP/earlier posts.

you said that Batman & Robin was a poor product. i'm saying that a Riddler solo movie would have been a worse product.

Worse by quality or worse by success at the box office? I really think that depends on the script, production, director, etc. TBH I don't think Batman is a necessary part of a Riddler origin movie however Batman put assess in movie theaters as well as sells DVDs (and really that is movie studios incentive to make these film$). Riddler may be a poor example. I'm not sure which (if any) Bat-Rogues would make for an interesting solo adventure yet alone have box office success.

y'know what? i hate doom. so i don't really care if they take the risk with a solo movie.

But tell us how you really feel.

[Ood Omega]

Not until the rights for him come back to Marvel

I hear ya. Fox had their chance. I am hoping their FF movie miraculously gets shelved and the rights lapse.

I agree, FOX should not have it.

I have to concur with the distrust for the ability of 20th Century Fox to put out a good superhero film. I actually wish they weren't the ones making this reboot.

[Derek Metaltron]

I'd watch it as long as he gets a voiceover from the Marvel Vs Capcom 3 guy. It was perfect!

Dear lord, do people actually LIKE that voice for Doom?! I honestly can't stand it myself, he doesn't sound dignified or cultured at all. THIS is the sort of voice I believe Doom deserves (and Loki for that matter):