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    Penance stare works on innocent people too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Batson View Post
    Penance stare works on innocent people too.
    How exactly does it reflect nonexistent suffering caused back onto them?
    Does it wrack them with guilt for not trying harder in school?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Batson View Post
    Penance stare works on innocent people too.
    Since when? Do you have scans of this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-Zero MKA View Post
    Since when? Do you have scans of this?
    Already posted them in the fight with strange?
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    So did this happen before or after Strange was neutered? Because ninjas have beaten modern Strange. Also, the guy spent so much time TALKING, I am not sure it would be relevant anyway.

    Kyle has managed to contain a super nova. I think if he slaps a containment bubble and squeezes a reformiong Rider, it will be fight over.

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    Well it's not like Strange is the only opponent that he's faced. World War Hulk, Satan and etc.
    Nope, the only way to beat Rider is either with holy weapons and hellfire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AJ Valliant View Post
    Kyle just compacts him into a cube and makes him the end table in a tasteful green lawn furniture set. And he does so from orbit.
    Now make this Hal Jordan and the penance stare argument might hold some weight (Depending how much his crimes as parralax haunt him), but even then Hal would need to be moronically reckless for that to work.
    So he'd just have to be Hal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Batson View Post
    Well it's not like Strange is the only opponent that he's faced. World War Hulk, Satan and etc.
    Nope, the only way to beat Rider is either with holy weapons and hellfire.
    So, let's say the Living Tribunal got into a fight with Ghost Rider. And LT was expressly forbidden the ability to just conjure up hellfire and holy weapons. Are you saying there is nothing the LT could do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Batson View Post
    Well it's not like Strange is the only opponent that he's faced. World War Hulk, Satan and etc.
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    As I recall, WWH and him barely got into it. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, since you are posting entire issues anyway.

    Nope, the only way to beat Rider is either with holy weapons and hellfire
    What are you arguing? That he can only be permently destroyed by these things? Fine. That only they can do lasting damage to him? That nothing else could blast him apart? Because the latter in particular would be a no-limit fallacy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Smiley View Post
    So, let's say the Living Tribunal got into a fight with Ghost Rider. And LT was expressly forbidden the ability to just conjure up hellfire and holy weapons. Are you saying there is nothing the LT could do?
    Omnipotent beings go without saying...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Batson View Post
    Omnipotent beings go without saying...
    All right. How about Galactus with the Ultimate Nullifier?

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    What are you arguing? That he can only be permently destroyed by these things? Fine. That only they can do lasting damage to him? That nothing else could blast him apart? Because the latter in particular would be a no-limit fallacy.
    I'm new to CBR's battles board, so what exactly is no-limit fallacy? Couldn't find in the stickies.
    GR is made out hellfire, bones and leather. There's nothing really that would harm him. He'll reappear instantly in a burst of flame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Smiley View Post
    All right. How about Galactus with the Ultimate Nullifier?
    He'll blast himself with it.
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    How does Hellfire harm Ghost Rider? Dude is basically covered in the stuff all the time.

    I'd imagine things like Zanpakutou or other things that attack spirits or souls without being holy or purifying would work on him just fine, if they were in or above his own paygrade. GL should be able to bind him indefinitely without any effort on his part.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Batson View Post


    I'm new to CBR's battles board, so what exactly is no-limit fallacy? Couldn't find in the stickies.
    GR is made out hellfire, bones and leather. There's nothing really that would harm him. He'll reappear instantly in a burst of flame.
    It means that unless something is shown to happen, within a reasonable showing that does not involve PIS, something's resistance to an attack or type of attack is only as great as shown, regardless of statements or otherwise.

    So in other words, GR's not shown to come back from being vaporized?
    Too bad, he won't have feats for it.
    He's not shown to be hit by a planet buster and tanking it?
    Too bad, he's not taking it, even though he should theoretically be unstoppable physically.

    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Batson View Post
    He'll blast himself with it.
    In this case, unless you have feats for a superpowerful being with immensely powerful weapons being mind controlled or compelled to kill himself instead of killing Ghost Rider, this is frankly, only a speculation.

    And it is not an argument.
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