"I love that the new protagonist of the Spider-Man franchise's Secret Origin is him trying to rape his arch enemies wife while murdering him."
-Kiryu
While I love reading your statements for the last day....you dont know that "Octo-Man" will be doing this....I see it as him....at the worse......maybe trying to do this but the submerged psyche of PP not allowing it....sort of like Peter being relegated to an anti-viagra.
"I love that the new protagonist of the Spider-Man franchise's Secret Origin is him trying to rape his arch enemies wife while murdering him."
-Kiryu
Adults struggle desperately with fiction, demanding constantly that it conform to the rules of everyday life when the answer is obvious to the smallest child: because it's not real. - Grant Morrison
See this is what i'm worried about. I'm expecting to hate Otto even more than I do now. He killed Peter in the most insidious way I could think of. He's stolen his body and his memories. Two weeks ago he tried to destroy the Earth. He's trying to "have relations" with Mary Jane which (i'm leaving the rape stuff out because that's too serious a subject for me to discuss regarding a Spider-Man comic) is villianous and morally wrong.
In 15.1 he laughs about killing Spider-Man and regarding power and responsibility and everything that Peter tried to teach him, he shruggs it off by saying he gets it, sort of.
Are you guys approaching this as a heroes journey or a villians journey? Is the story asking the reader to feel sympathy for this new character, to root for him like millions rooted for Tony Soprano and his sociopathic goon squad?
Last edited by RyanParkerMan; 12-27-2012 at 10:22 AM.
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Sure sure.
You compared Octo-Man using Peter's body and memories to get MJ into bed to.. what was it again? Being a charming drunk and being able to get women into bed?
Because that's the same situation entirely. Last I checked, being a charming drunk wasn't illegal, or morally wrong.
"I love that the new protagonist of the Spider-Man franchise's Secret Origin is him trying to rape his arch enemies wife while murdering him."
-Kiryu
Adults struggle desperately with fiction, demanding constantly that it conform to the rules of everyday life when the answer is obvious to the smallest child: because it's not real. - Grant Morrison
"I love that the new protagonist of the Spider-Man franchise's Secret Origin is him trying to rape his arch enemies wife while murdering him."
-Kiryu
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"I love that the new protagonist of the Spider-Man franchise's Secret Origin is him trying to rape his arch enemies wife while murdering him."
-Kiryu
And last time I checked people can't swap brains in the real world. As I said in my post which you clearly didn't read all the way through, it's a very loose analogy. I was merely attempting to question if it would be rape if two minds are in the original body. It's a bit unprecedented. As I said, a slippery slope. Nowhere did I say that I was "OK" with it. What Peter/Ock HASN'T EVEN DONE YET is very open to interpretation because WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING YET. If you can see that as a sponsorship of rape, it's very clear why you can't find any enjoyment in this book: you're functionally illiterate.
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