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    Quote Originally Posted by MagSeven View Post
    I interpreted it more as "if you don't want to wait and see how the story plays out, then don't read it".
    Given the fact that you also see nothing wrong with Octo-Man trying to nail MJ in Peter's body, I think I'll just go ahead and ignore your interpretation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark_S View Post
    He may actually be right about a lot of it. No matter how bad I've thought the stories from marvel have been sales have definitely proven that I'm in a minority. Actually the worse I've thought of them the better they've sold. I'm not buying them but it seems as if everyone else is.
    Well of course sales are high...they have been hinting for a month that they were planning on killing Spiderman....thats not exactly chopped liver we are talking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Father_Jerusalem View Post
    Given the fact that you also see nothing wrong with Octo-Man trying to nail MJ in Peter's body, I think I'll just go ahead and ignore your interpretation.
    I said that? Hmm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Father_Jerusalem View Post
    Given the fact that you also see nothing wrong with Octo-Man trying to nail MJ in Peter's body, I think I'll just go ahead and ignore your interpretation.
    While I love reading your statements for the last day....you dont know that "Octo-Man" will be doing this....I see it as him....at the worse......maybe trying to do this but the submerged psyche of PP not allowing it....sort of like Peter being relegated to an anti-viagra.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsg2295 View Post
    While I love reading your statements for the last day....you dont know that "Octo-Man" will be doing this....I see it as him....at the worse......maybe trying to do this but the submerged psyche of PP not allowing it....sort of like Peter being relegated to an anti-viagra.
    I did say "Trying" to nail MJ. Not that he'd be successful at it.

    Quote Originally Posted by MagSeven View Post
    I said that? Hmm.
    You've heavily implied it a few times now, yes. Do you need some gingko biloba for your memory?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Father_Jerusalem View Post
    I did say "Trying" to nail MJ. Not that he'd be successful at it.



    You've heavily implied it a few times now, yes. Do you need some gingko biloba for your memory?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Father_Jerusalem View Post
    Given the fact that you also see nothing wrong with Octo-Man trying to nail MJ in Peter's body, I think I'll just go ahead and ignore your interpretation.
    Because people want to read the book doesn't mean they want to see Doc Ock have an affair with MJ.

    We just want to see how the story plays out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by USERNAME TAKEN View Post
    Because people want to read the book doesn't mean they want to see Doc Ock have an affair with MJ.

    We just want to see how the story plays out.
    I just dont even see PP allowing Doc around his family....I see Superior with a whole new cast of people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stephen wacker View Post
    Thanks!

    And be careful...I've read the first few issues and you just may come to like Doc more than you think after what Dan, Cammo, Humberto and the crew are doing in the first 7 issues.

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    See this is what i'm worried about. I'm expecting to hate Otto even more than I do now. He killed Peter in the most insidious way I could think of. He's stolen his body and his memories. Two weeks ago he tried to destroy the Earth. He's trying to "have relations" with Mary Jane which (i'm leaving the rape stuff out because that's too serious a subject for me to discuss regarding a Spider-Man comic) is villianous and morally wrong.

    In 15.1 he laughs about killing Spider-Man and regarding power and responsibility and everything that Peter tried to teach him, he shruggs it off by saying he gets it, sort of.

    Are you guys approaching this as a heroes journey or a villians journey? Is the story asking the reader to feel sympathy for this new character, to root for him like millions rooted for Tony Soprano and his sociopathic goon squad?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagSeven View Post
    Bullshit. You're a liar.
    Sure sure.

    You compared Octo-Man using Peter's body and memories to get MJ into bed to.. what was it again? Being a charming drunk and being able to get women into bed?

    Because that's the same situation entirely. Last I checked, being a charming drunk wasn't illegal, or morally wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsg2295 View Post
    I just dont even see PP allowing Doc around his family....I see Superior with a whole new cast of people.
    Well, Pete did kind of ask Spock to "keep them safe".

    Wacker has said how Spock deals with it will be the major focus of the title in the first year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsg2295 View Post
    I just dont even see PP allowing Doc around his family....I see Superior with a whole new cast of people.
    Have you seen the cover to #2? Because Octo-Man and MJ making out is DEFINITELY "Peter not allowing Ock around his family"...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Father_Jerusalem View Post
    Have you seen the cover to #2? Because Octo-Man and MJ making out is DEFINITELY "Peter not allowing Ock around his family"...
    It's a cover.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dog View Post
    It's a cover.
    And covers exist in a vacuum, never having ANYTHING to do at all with what actually happens in an issue.

    I know when I buy X-Men comics, I regularly find covers with Batman on them, just because that's what the cover artist felt like drawing that month.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Father_Jerusalem View Post
    Sure sure.

    You compared Octo-Man using Peter's body and memories to get MJ into bed to.. what was it again? Being a charming drunk and being able to get women into bed?

    Because that's the same situation entirely. Last I checked, being a charming drunk wasn't illegal, or morally wrong.
    And last time I checked people can't swap brains in the real world. As I said in my post which you clearly didn't read all the way through, it's a very loose analogy. I was merely attempting to question if it would be rape if two minds are in the original body. It's a bit unprecedented. As I said, a slippery slope. Nowhere did I say that I was "OK" with it. What Peter/Ock HASN'T EVEN DONE YET is very open to interpretation because WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING YET. If you can see that as a sponsorship of rape, it's very clear why you can't find any enjoyment in this book: you're functionally illiterate.
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