Doc Ock - I'm Peter Parker.
Peter Parker - Not anymore Spider-Man. From now on I'm Peter Parker.
Good post Ryan. - Oldschool
I cannot recommend Scarlet Spider enough, but here's trying.
Like I said, comic companies to this kind of "crap" all the time and I doubt I'm all that responsible for it. But I guess it depends on your definition of crap. Crap like what keeps happening? Bucky as Captain America? Kaine becoming a good guy and the new Scarlet Spider? Damian Wayne becoming Robin to Grayson's Batman? Eric Masterson as Thor? Rhodey as Iron Man? Because while people threw fits about all those as well, I thought there were a lot of good stories and characters that came out of it.
And like I said, if it sucks, I won't read it and wait until Peter comes back, which is almost a certainty. But I'm at least going to try and have an open mind and actually decide if it's crap by, you know, reading it and having an informed opinion.
EDIT: Hn...some of my responses accidentally got posted in your text part. Whoops.
Since starting reading Amazing Spider-Man in the 80s, I've only quit twice. First during the Clone Saga, and now 700 has done it again.
Personally, I don’t think this comic justified the $8.00 price tag. IMO, if Marvel really wanted to sell us on the idea of a “redeemed” Doctor Octopus (even if it’s only intended as a fake out) it should have gone down like this:
Otto receives the Parker life story info dump. Otto, in a rare moment of self-realization, sees all the good Pete’s done in his life and compares it to his own selfish existence. Otto then realizes that he could never hope to replace Peter, and that the world still needs him.
A renewed Octopus, vowing to do one decent thing in his life, rushes Pete’s dying body back to his lab and attempts to transfer his mind back into his own body and vice-versa, unfortunately, Otto is simply too late, nothing is there. Peter Parker is dead. Otto’s mind remains in the Spider-Man body.
Otto has his “dear god, what have I done moment” and decides to try to live up to Pete’s legacy, in tragedy learning—dare I say it—“with great power comes great responsibility.”
Granted, people would still be upset, but at least it sets up the very real possibility that Ock means to be a hero. The story as it is now isn’t very convincing, and the montage of Otto reliving Pete’s life experiences by itself (with fat Otto’s head on Pete’s body) is simply more hilarious then heart tugging.
On to the next story, I didn’t care at all for the “Grandpa Martin is Spider-Man” storyline, just another rehash of the origin through distorted eyes. It’s been done before. It felt like filler, and confusing filler at that. Was this someone we've met in the past? Is it a tease of a future storyline where Grandpa becomes the new Spidey? Does anyone even really care?
I will be the lone naysayer however, and admit that I DID kind of like the Black Cat story. (Aside from overly cartoony art style.) I’m a Pete and Felicia shipper and it was nice to see Felicia treating Pete well, as opposed to her post BND “Oh Spider, why are you getting so upset? I was just using you, LOL.”
I’ll give it 3 out of 10 stars. (One of the stars is for the Marcos Martin holiday cover, which was great.)
I really think Superior has way too many bullets to dodge... Good thing Spidey's so quick on his feet :P
"What oldschool said"
The Shadow, 2008
"I came to the conclusion that the optimist thought everything good except the pessimist, and the pessimist thought everything bad, except himself." -- G.K. Chesterton
- Jason G. Carr
"What oldschool said"
The Shadow, 2008
OK, since "Amazing Spider-Man #700" and "Avenging Spider-Man #15.1" are finally out, I can finally talk freely and express what I have inside about what it has happened.
So, you think that because Octopus has seen Peter's life through his eyes that can assure he will stay as a "good guy" and it makes the fact of Peter dying in Octopus' body not so bad, right? Well... WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This story is completely UNACCEPTABLE in Spiderman's world!!!! I can't hold to see Spiderman's third greatest foe (behind the Green Goblin and Venom) taking over his life while the real hero is dead!!! As far as I see, Spiderman's DEAD!!! I won't waste a single cent of my money buying a single issue of this junk called "Superior Spider-Man"!!! Superior?, HAAA!!! Super-Ego I would say!!! I have seen "Avenging Spider-Man #15.1", and all that son of (censored) of Octopus is doing nothing more than just insulting and mocking every single part of Peter Parker's life!!! The preview of "Superior Spider-Man #1", showing his first time in action, is a prefect proof why we can't accept this imbecile as Spiderman. Instead of telling jokes to ease the stress of the battle and analysing the situation before acting, this "Super-fake" Spiderman only insults continually the villains and hit them so strong that he nearly uproot their heads with a kick. (That's something the REAL Spiderman would never do). And the ultimate insult is, when the bad guys pen him and he's the one starting to receive hits, he decides to run away and leave the fight. (If that's not an insult to everything that Spiderman represents, I don't know what it is; because the REAL Spidey would never run away from a fight if there are innocent lives in danger). And not just that, but seeing Octopus (in Peter's body) kissing MJ lustfully... Gosh, I think I'm gonna vomit to my first pap!!!
I have more to say, but I will wait for some replies before posting the next part.
I think it being a steep uphill battle is the point. He shouldn't be reformed just because Peter showed him those memories, but they will probably help out in the long run.
We even got to see some of this in AvSM #15.1. It ain't gonna happen overnight, but it will happen. In Otto's own way, of course.
I know Kevin Nichols through a guy that knows a gal. Small world!
If nihilism didn't take some delight in destruction one might suspect nihilists were an unnaturally morbid sort.