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    Quote Originally Posted by Siriel View Post
    Who knows.
    That would be the only logical explanation from what we saw though.

    I mean, we've never seen any spells for revealing ghosts, nor have we seen invisible ghosts that I can recall.

    I know he's not a ghost but still, it seems to follow from the evidence provided by the writer.

    Because "Lucius Malfoy (or whoever) sets Harry Potter on fire when he's two years old" does not make for a very good story.
    Even if he possessed someone, he wouldn't just be able to waltz into the Dursleys' place and do that until Harry was seventeen, so the PIS idea doesn't really work.

    Also, because IIRC, he was even weaker when he'd just gotten killed than he was by the time he showed up in Book 1.
    He's clearly not too weak to travel all the way to Albania. <_<

    Unless you're saying that it takes him years to gain enough strength to possess people, which I admit is possible, but that doesn't exactly help his cause in the Arena.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siriel View Post
    Because "Lucius Malfoy (or whoever) sets Harry Potter on fire when he's two years old" does not make for a very good story.
    You sir are correct, it wouldn't be a very good story..it'd be a great story. Speaking of Lucius I'm pretty sure when Harry tricks him into freeing Dobby the guy was about to use the AK on Harry until Dobby saved him. So umm..what would he of done if Dobby had been too slow stop him? How would he explain using it on an 11 yr. old?
    A woman can move a lot faster with her skirt up than a man can with his pants down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol M View Post
    Even if he possessed someone, he wouldn't just be able to waltz into the Dursleys' place and do that until Harry was seventeen, so the PIS idea doesn't really work.
    I was more implying that he could just ask Lucius to do that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Surtur View Post
    You sir are correct, it wouldn't be a very good story..it'd be a great story. Speaking of Lucius I'm pretty sure when Harry tricks him into freeing Dobby the guy was about to use the AK on Harry until Dobby saved him. So umm..what would he of done if Dobby had been too slow stop him? How would he explain using it on an 11 yr. old?
    Twirl his mustache and disappear in a puff of smoke, duh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siriel View Post
    I was more implying that he could just ask Lucius to do that.
    If he could do that, one would assume he'd have done so as soon as he was able to give orders to people again. ^^

    I mean, clearly no one was really guarding Harry at his uncle's place, given that he got attacked by Dementors without the ministry even batting an eyelid.


    Quote Originally Posted by Surtur View Post
    You sir are correct, it wouldn't be a very good story..it'd be a great story. Speaking of Lucius I'm pretty sure when Harry tricks him into freeing Dobby the guy was about to use the AK on Harry until Dobby saved him. So umm..what would he of done if Dobby had been too slow stop him? How would he explain using it on an 11 yr. old?
    Quote Originally Posted by Siriel View Post
    Twirl his mustache and disappear in a puff of smoke, duh.
    He had a moustache? oO

    Seriously though, if he went that far, he'd have to kill all the witnesses and blame it on the rogue house elf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol M View Post
    If he could do that, one would assume he'd have done so as soon as he was able to give orders to people again. ^^
    He'd developped "I must do it myself!" syndrome by then.
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    He had a moustache? oO
    No, but neither could he disappear from Hogwarts in a puff of smoke, so take that how you will.
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    Seriously though, if he went that far, he'd have to kill all the witnesses and blame it on the rogue house elf.
    Meh, it was just Dobby. Lucius would probably have won in court.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siriel View Post
    He'd developped "I must do it myself!" syndrome by then.
    Then he could have had someone knock Harry out and bring him to Voldemort. He certainly wasn't averse to that idea at any point.

    Meh, it was just Dobby. Lucius would probably have won in court.
    Oh I thought there were other people there.

    If it's just Dobby , he could win without a trial, although it could easily be determined that Dobby wasn't the killer. No one would bother find out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siriel View Post
    He'd developped "I must do it myself!" syndrome by then.
    Well, shame Voldemort developed a chronic case of the stupid crazy.

    Although there was still a lot of PIS by the end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol M View Post
    Then he could have had someone knock Harry out and bring him to Voldemort. He certainly wasn't averse to that idea at any point.
    Nope. He apparently gave explicit order that only he got to defeat Harry.

    Like, Lucius actually offers a compromise in the fifth book because Voldemort would be pissed if he and the Death Eaters attacked Harry. And when Snape interrupts a Crucio that someone had hit Harry with in book six, none of the others find it odd in the slightest when his only justification is "we were told to leave him alone".

    Even in book 4 when Harry tries to run away he goes "Leave him he's mine!". Instead of, say, "Stun him and I'll duel him again later".

    There's a reason why I say that Voldemort lost his brain whenever Harry is involved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siriel View Post
    Nope. He apparently gave explicit order that only he got to defeat Harry.

    Like, Lucius actually offers a compromise in the fifth book because Voldemort would be pissed if he and the Death Eaters attacked Harry. And when Snape interrupts a Crucio that someone had hit Harry with in book six, none of the others find it odd in the slightest when his only justification is "we were told to leave him alone".

    Even in book 4 when Harry tries to run away he goes "Leave him he's mine!". Instead of, say, "Stun him and I'll duel him again later".
    Point.
    It's incredibly amusing how they all ignored him in that scene though, and kept firing curses at him. :P

    Luckily for them, none of them hit. <_<

    There's a reason why I say that Voldemort lost his brain whenever Harry is involved.
    True that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol M View Post
    How hard can it be for a superspeeding vampire with superhuman senses to find one bald guy among a few hundred before the guy can cast a spell?
    About that, I'm honestly not that impressed with the movie twipire superspeed. I'm pretty sure they are vastly more impressive in the books but in the movies they can apparently only do it in bursts over short distances, and even then it's at a speed I'd expect a good HP wizard would be able to track considering their reaction feats.

    In terms of speed feats, this is one of the more impressive fights in the movies that I have seen:



    Yeah, they are fast. But they are not, like, Smallville Clark Kent type fast. They don't seem to be able to keep it up for very long - when they actually do run across long distances, they are more or less equal to the not especially superspeedy werewolves.

    And it's not like HP spellcasting is slow. Most of them just have to wave a stick and you and boom, you're a welsh corgi or something.
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