Ultron Inquiries

[Reptisaurus!]

Yeah, I know where you are coming from. I think the issue is that Kurt was also tying up his run on Avengers, so besides the Kang stuff, he worked in the ending for some long running plot threads like Triathlon and the Triune Understanding. And some of the spotlight issues are also finishing up character arcs, like the stuff with Carol Danvers, who was a major character throughout Kurt's run. So that stuff certainly works better if you've read the first 40 issues of the series.

I followed some of it. The library had volumes 1,3, and 5 of the Kurt Busiek Avengers, and I'd read some of the rest of it when it came out. I'd read the stuff in volume 1 before, but liked it much more on rereading. I hadn't read the stuff in volume 3 before, and really, really enjoyed it especially the parts with She-Hulk. And not the parts that were issues of Thunderbolts. And Volume 5 was... well, it was more out there and structurally experimental but not as fun to read by a lot. Maybe I would have liked it better if I'd read volumes 2 and 4, but I can't imagine that the Avengers finding out the church guy they think is evil is actually an evil church guy (who is basically generic villian template 1A in terms of personality) would have been better if I read more.

I like big teams, though - Actually, I thought the team building in EVERY Avengers story in these three books was interesting and cool.

That sounds like The Ultron Imperative. Personally, I think this is probably the best Alkhema story, but you may like the others, though I am not much of a fan of the character. That was a good one-shot though.

That's it. I had mis-remembered it being an annual, but it was a 1-shot. Bitchy female Ultron totally worked for me, but I'm a little nervous about reading Avengers stuff I haven't already read. (Basically anything between # 300 and the Heroes Reborn stuff.)

Is Ravonna still around? She'd be on my fantasy Avengers team, along with Hawkeye, the Wasp, the Hulk, Tigra, Cloud 9, Daredevil, Clea, Hogun the Grim the Falcon and Stingray.

[Scott Harris]

That's it. I had mis-remembered it being an annual, but it was a 1-shot. Bitchy female Ultron totally worked for me, but I'm a little nervous about reading Avengers stuff I haven't already read. (Basically anything between # 300 and the Heroes Reborn stuff.)

Is Ravonna still around? She'd be on my fantasy Avengers team, along with Hawkeye, the Wasp, the Hulk, Tigra, Cloud 9, Daredevil, Clea, Hogun the Grim the Falcon and Stingray.

Most of Alkhema's previous appearances were in West Coast Avengers if I recall correctly. She also appeared in Kurt's Ultron story in vol. 3 #19-22. You are very wise to skip pretty much everything between #300 and vol. 3 #1. There are some so-so stories that aren't too offensive. There's also the Gatherer's epic, which I personally liked but mainly because it was a step above the utter garbage otherwise appearing in the title. And it has Steve Epting pencils. But a lot of people didn't like that story and after it ended in #375, the title went completely to hell.

[Tristan_MC]

You guys are really knowledgeable. I've always been curious about Ultron. I remember reading a comic featuring him in '91/92 I believe. The story had Spider-Man, Black Panther, Iron Man and some orange Iron Man, with coils, going up against a robot army and Ultron. And Kingpin was also in it. Anyone have an idea what I'm talking about? It would be extremely appreciated.

[MRP]

You guys are really knowledgeable. I've always been curious about Ultron. I remember reading a comic featuring him in '91/92 I believe. The story had Spider-Man, Black Panther, Iron Man and some orange Iron Man, with coils, going up against a robot army and Ultron. And Kingpin was also in it. Anyone have an idea what I'm talking about? It would be extremely appreciated.

Sounds like it might have been the Vibranium Vendetta, a storyline that ran across the Spider-Man Annuals in 1991. Started in Amazing Spider-Man Annual 25, continued in Spectacular Spider-Man Annual 11, Web of Spider-Man Annual 7.

-M

Here's the link for the first part on the GCD...

http://www.comics.org/issue/83361/

[Tristan_MC]

Sounds like it might have been the Vibranium Vendetta, a storyline that ran across the Spider-Man Annuals in 1991. Started in Amazing Spider-Man Annual 25, continued in Spectacular Spider-Man Annual 11, Web of Spider-Man Annual 7.

-M

Here's the link for the first part on the GCD...

http://www.comics.org/issue/83361/

Man, you are awesome! Yeah the orange Iron Man was Sunturion. This is bringing back memories now lol. I think I'll hunt this comic down just to read it in its entirety.

[MRP]

I remembered the story from back in the day and that it ran across a few annuals, but I had to find out which since I couldn't remember exactly. The GCD is your friend in such inquiries if you have a starting place or nugget of info to work with. In this case it was the term Vibranium in a title search looking for Marvel annuals in the 90's such a search yielded. The rest was easy.

-M

[Reptisaurus!]

I'm back home in Michigan, at the library, reading Avengers Assembled vol. 2. Contains Avengers ('90s series) 12-22, 0, and Annual # 1999, which is either a date or a typo or a joke.

I'm about halfway through - good character interaction, terrible villains (Giant robot guy, giant armor guy, other giant guy who talks like a robot and might be wearing armor) , some really good Iron Man drawings, the Beast shows up for one issue (Yay!) then leaves (Boo!). It's the Wrecking Crew and then Ultron next, so hopefull it will finish strong.

[Reptisaurus!]

Oh for God's sake. Issue # 16 starts out with another giant robot/armor guy.

(Was a double post, but I just had to say....)

[MRP]

I'm back home in Michigan, at the library, reading Avengers Assembled vol. 2. Contains Avengers ('90s series) 12-22, 0, and Annual # 1999, which is either a date or a typo or a joke.

I'm about halfway through - good character interaction, terrible villains (Giant robot guy, giant armor guy, other giant guy who talks like a robot and might be wearing armor) , some really good Iron Man drawings, the Beast shows up for one issue (Yay!) then leaves (Boo!). It's the Wrecking Crew and then Ultron next, so hopefull it will finish strong.

Not a typo or a misnumbering on the Annual-for a time in the late 90's Marvel stopped numbering theirs annuals and just had the year to denote them. I think they did this form about 1995-2000 or so. So the annuals were Annual '95 on the cover and Annual 1995 in the indicia, next year was '96 and 1996, and so on.

-M

[adam_warlock_2099]

Okay this may not have happened in the Avengers comics, but the episode I was just watching was about Ultron capturing and synthesizing the Avengers with robotic replacements that were free of the chaos of human emotions and therefore perfect. He felt that Thor was the greatest threat so he was the last to be replaced. But in the battle with all the Avenger replacements against Thor, when Thor's replacement appears after the other Avengers defeat him, they show Thor's replacement dragging Thor and carrying Mjlonir. How in the hell is a robotic replacement from Ultron worthy enough to lift Mjlonir? Who let that boo-boo slide?