The online behavior of Comic Book Professionals

[Ari Gold]

I think we probably agree on a lot of points. I just think its silly when fans point a finger at creators about rude behavior.

Cool. I think we agree for the most part.

[ShaggyB]

Not sure exactly what you're saying, but having been in parts of this discussion for a couple of years now it seems what happens is that anybody who dislikes it eventually moves on, and little changes are made. And since the behavior continues we have threads like this popping up throughout the year by newcomers who don't realize this is just how it is and not worth investing too much in to.

Id say thats a fair assessment.... but not everyone moves on, some stay to "fight the good fight", which then will cause the behavior and the notice.

[ShaggyB]

Suppose it depends on what one's intentions are.

By the way, if one's foundation is built in a swamp, things might not work out so well.

"When I first came here, this was all swamp. Everyone said I was daft to build a castle on a swamp, but I built in all the same, just to show them. It sank into the swamp. So I built a second one. That sank into the swamp. So I built a third. That burned down, fell over, then sank into the swamp. But the fourth one stayed up. And that's what you're going to get, Lad, the strongest castle in all of England. "

[Jim Thompson]

"When I first came here, this was all swamp. Everyone said I was daft to build a castle on a swamp, but I built in all the same, just to show them. It sank into the swamp. So I built a second one. That sank into the swamp. So I built a third. That burned down, fell over, then sank into the swamp. But the fourth one stayed up. And that's what you're going to get, Lad, the strongest castle in all of England. "

Exactly.

And no singing.

[ShaggyB]

Exactly.

And no singing.

lol but I dont like land.... I want to sing!!!

[Jim Thompson]

lol but I dont like land.... I want to sing!!!

And now we all know who Shaggy really is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3YiPC91QUk

[poneley]

I see Gail's point (thank you for posting that.) I imagine that would be like Chris Claremont suddenly sitting at the lunch table that you and your friends are using and suddenly arguing that everyone is being unfair with their unfiltered and private conversations about his work. But this stuff is not private, its a public forum. My disconnect is that the community has always had a long history of interaction between fans and creators that stemmed from the early days of letter pages, to conventions and now message boards. Maybe the best option is for creators to be more absent from the boards? I still see no problem with them giving a snarky response to a rude post-- that was birthed the day we had creator panels at conventions.

[B. Kuwanger]

You mean like a McDonald's employee?

Ha, I'm sure many do, but yeah. It's not that I don't get the point you made about professionals not being more than they are, but if you tell Chris from Mcdonald's #4152 that he sucks or sucks at his job, he wouldn't offer the type of response that you'd expect out of the type of creator that comes to this board.

[Jim Thompson]

Ha, I'm sure many do, but yeah. It's not that I don't get the point you made about professionals not being more than they are, but if you tell Chris from Mcdonald's #4152 that he sucks or sucks at his job, he wouldn't offer the type of response that you'd expect out of the type of creator that comes to this board.

I wouldn't make that assumption.

[ShaggyB]

Ha, I'm sure many do, but yeah. It's not that I don't get the point you made about professionals not being more than they are, but if you tell Chris from Mcdonald's #4152 that he sucks or sucks at his job, he wouldn't offer the type of response that you'd expect out of the type of creator that comes to this board.

As a former McDonalds employee/assistant manager.... I would give back rudeness to overly rude customers. Hell I watched my boss tell someone that the sign says 1 million served and that he didnt need that customers business.

Funny enough the guy was back the next weekend buying the same big mac.

And I worked there for a while... left when they began to change the policies on employees getting free food.

[Ari Gold]

Id say thats a fair assessment.... but not everyone moves on, some stay to "fight the good fight", which then will cause the behavior and the notice.

You had it right the first time, before you added the additional clause.

Nobody is "fighting the good fight", and nobody else causes the behavior.

[ShaggyB]

You had it right the first time, before you added the additional clause.

Nobody is "fighting the good fight", and nobody else causes the behavior.

I disagree. Nitpicking every detail of an issue including making up potential rape cases, spending time telling an Editor how they should act online, calling people trollish.... these are all examples of users continuing to behave in ways that spark such behavior.

Its a circle, not a line.

[stephen wacker]

Right. But when a fan gets on a message board and says a story sucked, should a writer or an editor really feel the need to "correct" him on the matter?

Are you implying I did this? When did this happen?

In college I think you studied "Pre-Mad"

SW

[Ari Gold]

I disagree. Nitpicking every detail of an issue including making up potential rape cases, spending time telling an Editor how they should act online, calling people trollish.... these are all examples of users continuing to behave in ways that spark such behavior.

Its a circle, not a line.

But . . . that is a line . . . since the behavior continues you still get (2) people "telling an Editor how they should act online" and (3) calling people trollish . . . That's not a circle. i.e. if it did indeed cease, people would no longer be claiming (2) or (3).

And in regards to (1) fans keep picking apart comic books - You think that should change? Fans should only focus on positives? Simply, if you have nothing nice to say, then don't say anything at all.

[Raphael Edwards]

Are you implying I did this? When did this happen?

In college I think you studied "Pre-Mad"

SW

BOO!! Get off the stage.