The Green Goblin's Return

**Red Lotus** · 01-31-2013, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by E. Wilson

Well, it's interesting, because Osborn doesn't know who Spidey is at this point, so he'd probably have to re-learn it at first.

At the same time, it'd probably present a dilemma for Spock. He'd know how vicious the Spidey/Gobby feud is, and might not be entirely willing to enter into that fray. There's a personal risk in going up against the Goblin that would probably outweigh whatever threats he'd have faced before. Not saying Spock is a coward, mind you, but he's not inherently heroic, and the coldly logical part of him could rightly point out that it might make more sense to let the Avengers handle this.

If Norman comes after Spock he wouldn't have any choice. But Spock would be way more brutal. Which should tip Norman off that something isn't right.

**Kevinroc** · 01-31-2013, 02:39 PM

It'll be interesting to see Otto experiencing Peter's feelings for Gwen when encountering Norman.

**stillanerd** · 01-31-2013, 02:47 PM

I'm thinking that not only Norman Osborn would figure out that Doc Ock is the Superior Spider-Man, he'd also want to kill him because not only because Norman believes Spider-Man was his to kill, but that Doc Ock is actually disrespecting Spider-Man's memory by pretending to be him, since Spider-Man for Norman was like the son he always wished he had. He may even tell SpOck "Face it, Otto: you're more pathetic now than you ever were."

**Red Lotus** · 01-31-2013, 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by xElijahSnowx

Is there any evidence that OMD / OMIT rectoned that into oblivion?

I think Norman - knowing his enemy so well, will realize something is different. He no longer remembers who Peter is right now, so he may just assume it's someone new under the mask.

That still happen. Even though JMS wanted to retcon it out with OMD, but Joe Q wouldn't let him.

Originally Posted by stillanerd

I'm thinking that not only Norman Osborn would figure out that Doc Ock is the Superior Spider-Man, he'd also want to kill him because not only because Norman believes Spider-Man was his to kill, but that Doc Ock is actually disrespecting Spider-Man's memory by pretending to be him, since Spider-Man for Norman was like the son he always wished he had. He may even tell SpOck "Face it, Otto: you're more pathetic now than you ever were."

I really want Norman to be the one to bring Peter back and get Otto out of his body.

**HopeLantern** · 01-31-2013, 02:56 PM

There's a lot about this series I've misjudged. I'd love to see a Normon / Otto face off. I think it could be written superbly! Count me in.

**BottomsUp** · 01-31-2013, 02:56 PM

Originally Posted by stillanerd

I'm thinking that not only Norman Osborn would figure out that Doc Ock is the Superior Spider-Man, he'd also want to kill him because not only because Norman believes Spider-Man was his to kill, but that Doc Ock is actually disrespecting Spider-Man's memory by pretending to be him, since Spider-Man for Norman was like the son he always wished he had. He may even tell SpOck "Face it, Otto: you're more pathetic now than you ever were."

That intimate relationship between Peter and Norman was before OMD. Right now, I think it's more likely that Osborn gets seriously hurt in his first fight with Spock. Not expecting a Spider-man who swings with lethal force and all that.

**stillanerd** · 01-31-2013, 03:11 PM

Originally Posted by BottomsUp

That intimate relationship between Peter and Norman was before OMD. Right now, I think it's more likely that Osborn gets seriously hurt in his first fight with Spock. Not expecting a Spider-man who swings with lethal force and all that.

Oh, I agree that it's not as it once was (unfortunately). But Norman's obsessive-fixation on Spider-Man had remained intact and he still regards him as a worthy adversary. Also, just the fact that the Superior would rely on more aggressive tactics and no quips would easily clue Norman in that this Spider-Man is "an imposter" I think.