I tried to read the all new X-Men because I thought it would be a standalone thing with out all the continuity, but no. It's just a bunch of continuity with which I am totally unfamiliar. I felt totally lost so I dropped it after the first 3 issues.
Batgirl, Superman/Wonder Woman, Detective Comics, Worlds Finest, Batman/Superman, The Movement, Astro City, Kick Ass 3, Miracle Man, Nightcrawler, Red Sonja, The Star Wars, Sandman: Overture, The Maxx
Great read, this thread! Many valid points for both sides. Personally, I agree with the guy who said that NOW! is somewhere in the middle of the pack between the worst of DC and the best of DC. For the past year I have been a DC consumer; however, the constant out-of-the-blue changes in creative teams and what seems to be a sense of directionlessness (?) has made me look again at Marvel to see what they have to offer.
Hawkeye, FF, Daredevil, and Hickman's Avengers are excellent titles, but like someone said previously, whenever I buy something from Marvel, I feel like I am being scammed, or like i am financing an evil empire. I certainly hate that Marvel tries to reflect in its books whatever happens in the most recent movie (Mystique being given scaled skin, Toad turning green and growing a tongue, this new Nick Fury, Coulson, Rogue turning into Anna Paquin, the Avengers turning into the Avengers from the movie, etc) and also the fact that artists barely last 4-6 months in a title (at best). Also, the "event" never-ending-cycle is exhausting. As soon as this happens in one of those 4 titles, i'm gone.
I dont have a problem with DC's reboot; DC can probably get away with doing it every 20 years or so. I think that ship has sailed for Marvel, and now their only option is to pull retcons to catch up the characters and situations to current times.
In the end it really doesnt matter which one is better as long as at least one of them is producing a quality product; whoever does, will get my money, and if they get too lazy then the money will go to the one who shows more respect for the consumer.
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Comic sales in the u.s. pale in comparison to other countries like japan, where kids to the elderly read comics. I have to travel a hour plus to get a consistent source of new comics legally. i about peed my pants when I saw Archie comics in a store within 30 minutes from home.
It will never be better than the New 52 because Marvel was only reacting to what DC was doing, but did not have the guts to really restart everything for fear of losing long-time readers, so they just renumbered their titles. And in naming their event they only changed one letter from "New" to "Now" :)
A rebooted Marvel Universe would be extremely difficult for me to resist. There's always going to be something appealing about being there when it all started. But Marvel's put themselves in the position of rewriting history piecemeal which just isn't as dynamic as what DC did. That was a huge gamble and apparently Marvel doesn't believe they can pull it off. Which may be for the best for them. That's not dissimilar to my beloved pre-CoIE DCU which reconned here and there or mostly just ignored how old these characters really were by refusing to allow them to age to the point of marriage and such. I remember it was a rather large occurrence when Dick went off to college and Jason was introduced. Nowadays, Jason would have been thought up and Dick sent to college to make room for him. But back then it was Dick's story to go away and they wanted to reverse that decision at a later date in some manner so push the timeline forward by having a new Robin to resemble him. There just seemed a clear idea of what was and wasn't allowed. Today, neither DC nor Marvel really have a clear idea of such a thing. So instead of things feeling like responses to natural events, events are manufactured to appear to be natural.
I like the batman owl story arc and a lot other dc arcs. Each dc family comics adds layers to the sub series of comics and often have focus on different parts of the character's life, which i do not feel with marvel now.Both universes have too many comics in popular series like batman,xmen. Why do we need 5 plus comics in a series like batman/avengers a month? I was a marvel kid but also adored dc and image(when i could afford it). I love the concept of a super hero and dc and marvel have been the main players since the 60's if not before.
I can not put one over the other by a huge margin. I have adored marvel more and have collected more on the marvel side. My dc collection is huge but my marvel collection is even more enormous. I want to see what superman and others in the dc universe and spider man and others in the in the marvel universe. Together they satisfy my mainstay American comics desires. Image and valiant together my desire to read less corporate based comics, which are more free in their expression and in my opinion of image have better artwork and less censoring.
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I f we compare titles, then I think Dc wins. Dc has some of the worst titles ever (Anything by Noncenti and Lobdell, except for Rhato) but far more amazing titles than Marvel.
Amazing titles DC: Batman, Animal Man, Swamp Thing, Wonder Woman, Astro City.
Great titles: Aquaman, Green Rrow, Green lantern (all of them), Flash, Batgirl, nightwing. The rest are alright, average or terrible.
Marvel Amazing Titles: Daredevil, Thor. Most of the rest are great or average.
So yeah, IMO, Dc has better titles at the moment, but several bar ones. In the end, Vertigo defeats any other company out there.