It doesn't matter what the writer, artist, or editor had in mind when they created it, or what they said in an interview;
all that matters is what is on the page.
Star Wars: Dark Times,
Richard Stark's Parker by Darwyn Cooke,
Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye
Allred/Fraction's FF (Not Fantastic Four)
The thing is, you're right -- with the exception of the Fraction/Aja Hawkeye, none of them are really blowing me away. With a few exceptions (Thunderbolts, Deadpool, Iron Man are all genuinely bad, I think), I've found Marvel NOW's output to be GOOD, but never great.
The Allred/Fraction FF is heartfelt as hell, and that makes it one of the best of the bunch, but it's not exactly innovative. Aaron's Thor is wonderful old school Fantasy, but that's all that it is. Hickman's Avengers has thus far been fun, but fairly cliche; some nice ideas, but no bedrock that is really blowing the roof of of things. Waid's Hulk has some fun character moments, but also some very off character choices, and we're two issues in and there is no real plot, the villains a complete afterthought.
All of those are worth my money -- none of them is really worth a re-read. That said, it's still early, so who knows where we'll develop? But there are no books there that compete with Dial H, Action Comics, Batman Inc, or Wonder Woman. Fraction's Hawkeye strikes me as a sharper written Flash, primarily art driven, but no book really matches the experimental, innovative nature of The Flash or Batwoman (though, of course, Batwoman will soon lose that with JH Williams moving onto Sandman).
I'm still hoping that the best is yet to come -- very excited about Young Avengers.
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letīs talk about Peter's Death....
New 52 was a massive success as a jumping on point for me. Not only I am I keeping up with around 20 titles a month but I also went back and bought tons of older DC books because of it.
Deadpool and Hawkeye are the only two Marvel books I'm currently reading and I'm not even sure if Hawkeye is technically part of Marvel Now!
Marvel Now got me to try a couple of Hickman's Avengers series as well as Bendis' All-New X-Men. What it didn't do was to change series I liked into series I wasn't as fond of. The big difference between the two is that Marvel redecorated, changed creative teams around and shuffles team line-ups. DC rebuilt a lot more. There's something to be said for both methods and most of the recent posts have favored DC's approach.
Me, because I liked the way some DC series were going before Flashpoint and these weren't continued after Flashpoint (a more fun time-traveling Booster, a more mature Barbara Gordon, a multi-generational JSA, a Legion book that's not a 1990's team book knockoff, Secret Six, Doom Patrol). Although I am reading Animal Man, I don't see it as the greatness others do. It's Jaime Delano lite. I think Earth 2 is a great book and Worlds' Finest has loads of potential, but with Earth 2 has left out what I liked most about the JSA and WF is definitely not Power Girl's old book. I've also tried other books but didn't get into them. In all for me, more cons than pros.
Those of you who actually pay attention to numbers may have realized that I wasn't reading that many marvels before Marvel Now and you'd be correct. But I've tried books because of it and even if I drop them all, I'm still even with pre now as it didn't cause me to drop anything and it didn't cancel anything I was reading. So I've got possible pros and no cons.
What does this mean? It means I preferred now to the nu52. Doesn't mean it's better or worse, only different. I hope DC and Marvel are looking at numbers and trying to figure out what works well for them and what doesn't. People are going to favor one, the other, both or neither and regardless of how the majority feels, the likes and dislikes are personal.
"Cant say it better than CaptCleghorn." - RolandJP
Current Top Ten Comics: Earth 2, Red Hood and the Outlaws, Talon, Demon Knights, Transformers: Regeneration One, Young Avengers, Batman Beyond Unlimited, Nightwing, Flash, Aquaman
I prefer Marvel NOW(!) because they didn't mess up continuity and only hire authors like Scott Lobdell and Howard Mackie.
So I just heard there's a new Marvel Now! issue that's going for $7.99?!?! Who do they think they are to just spit in all the readers' faces like that? That is pathetic and disgusting. I'm pretty much done with Marvel for good when they go pulling antics like that.
Marvel changes and retcons everything so I dont even know wth is going on when I pick up a new book. Harry osborn is alive now? Peter never got married? Daredevil is a girl? Spideys black?
A reboot answers these questions. Sure I could wiki it, but I dont wanna work that hard for my entertainment. Plus with a reboot, everything old is new again.
Marvel should reboot.
That post is funny because he tried to be clever but he left out a word and end up calling the Marvel writers bad instead.