I think the current problem with Nightwing is that he lost most of his long-term history, now becoming a recent Robin who might have led a Titans group who was definitely Batman for reasons they can't even tell us in fear of new readers having a tantrum.
He had a rich history to explore and it's not there anymore. He's become a tie-in attraction who just copes with random villains that Bruce manages to piss off.
So yes, he does need a long-term direction. He needs his old history re-affirmed. He needs to be leading a team. He needs something besides being "bat-fake".
'The marquis. Well, you know, to be honest, he seems a little bit dodgy to me.'
'Mm,' she agreed. 'He's a little bit dodgy in the same way that rats are a little bit covered in fur."
I wonder if the whole Nightwing connection to Superman is still in continuity.
Anyway, I wouldn't mind seeing Cass show up in the book as a recurring character. It would be this book or Inc where I think she would fit in the best. Dick's always been at his best when he had another strong character to work off of and I think their contrasting personalities would allow for an interesting dynamic.
Last edited by Badou; 12-23-2012 at 06:35 PM.
Now with that relationship gone, who knows how he got the name. Just one of a dozen problems concerning Dick's rebooted history.
Nightwing desperately needs his own rogues gallery! A hero is only as good as his villains. Maybe they could bring back Blockbuster. I think we'd all like to forget the Tarantula story.
I like this run anyway. I would like to see Blockbuster back and/or maybe Tarantula...minus what happened. I think things will take off soon in a good way and I hope Sonia Zucco is here to stay. I'm sick of Babs/Dick, Kor'i/Dick especially the former. At least with Sonia there is someone to flesh out and have in the long run.
In regards to creative teams, I like what Higgins is doing. Considering I'm on a massive strict budget I'm happy with Nightwing. However I would like it to be less darker.
An arc against (Secret Six style) Catman might be interesting, Thomas Blake was one of the more moral villians, and since his girlfriend has ceased to exist, a relationship with Dick might be interesting. Likewise, the Catgirl-Catwoman-Dick-as-Batman bit I liked. If the Falcone crime family is still in continuity, him training her might be interesting.
If Bette ever becomes Flamebird, then a relationship is natural. If Bruce is the brains of the heroes, Dick needs to be the heart.
I think Dick Grayson works fine as a character, the persona of Nightwing not so much.
The problem with Nightwing is three-fold: persona, stories and location. The persona of Nightwing was a decent ID for Dick Grayson to adopt when he was moving on from being Robin and acting as the leader of the Titans in that it made him look like an adult representative of the Bat-Family i.e. a serious player. It worked OK when he was alone in Bludhaven mostly thanks to Dixon's solid plotting and characterisation even if the villains and stories weren't very memorable. Beating up gang members and third-tier Batman villains gets old after a while.
As a solo vigilante operating in Gotham at night, he's a junior grade version of Batman. In that environment what exactly does he offer that's distinctive?
Morrison made him work as Batman by doing a 180 and making him like his Robin persona: a daredevil, fun, acrobatic SUPERHERO with a smile on his face with over-the-top, flamboyant opponents. If he's going to be in Gotham, he should be the the sunny opposite to Batman, a crimefighter that's comfortable operating in broad daylight and having good relations with the police and public.
The two most powerful warriors are patience and time - Leo Tolstoy
Personally If I were Higgins I would play up Amusement Mile as a larger area of Gotham, with the larger area being known as "Amusement Mile" simply because it's the most recognizable landmark in the area.
Then fill that area with guys like Pyg, Flamingo, etc.
If they are going to legitimately cement Dick in Gotham, he has to has his own slice of it that can fit him as a character.
See: Daredevil and how "Hell's Kitchen" isn't at all like Spider-Man's "New York"
Last edited by Whip Whirlwind; 12-24-2012 at 09:38 AM.
Thanks to whoever started this post. I was wondering the other day what the book was like and how it compared to previous incarnations, namely Dixon's run. I didn't bother to pick up any of the New 52 issues, I was just put out when they mentioned that they were jittisioning his back story with the Titans as well as his experience in Bludhaven etc. I just don't want to see Dick written as a boy.
Batman/ Emma Frost/ X-23/ Storm/ Psylock/ Supergirl /Elektra/ Blackbolt/ The Flash
If they wanted Dick to have a separate identity they would have kept the Titans connection and used some of them as supporting cast.
Dixon's run give 'Wing a decent enough rogues gallery. They could always bring back Pyg and Flamingo also(not as high on them as some others are).
Mainly the character veers from dealing with editorial indifference to near sabotage. After all, Nightwing isn't a hard chracter to grasp. Higgins, Dixon, Tomasi, even Devin Grayson all got the character.
Its just that the book cant seem to go a year without being deconstructed by the needs of the Bat office.