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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Mask View Post
    But people have criticized both of Marvel and DC of making flat, unrealistic characters. Tony Stark was mostly an amalgamation of Howard Hughes stereotypes with the dashing charm of icons like Errol Flynn. However corporate leaders, especially tech leaders, are not really as eccentric as Robert Downey Jr's portrayal or share Howard Hughes' hypochondriac behaviors. They're as human as anybody else. The film emphasized those traits because it's a good way to prove he's a brilliant, rich workaholic. Bale's performance as Bruce Wayne was so good, because he was too damaged to convincingly be the playboy billionaire/business genius. He couldn't maintain his wealth in TDKR and act spoiled because he's too intense inside.

    If Wonder Woman does come to the theater what does an Amazon Princess from an isolated island behave? Do we really want to hear her speak in ancient Greek just to make it authentic? The language barrier should be significant but it's also an issue these films would rather just skip over.
    1. It's a superhero film so people need to stop taking them so freaking seriously when it comes to personalities. Superhero characters are nothing more then escapist archetypes.

    2. There have been eccentric celebrities
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    Quote Originally Posted by Legato View Post
    2. There have been eccentric celebrities
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    Quote Originally Posted by Legato View Post
    I find Iron Man to be a Marvel studio film that actually tries to be a fun superhero film. Don't know about you but the Iron Man films did what the comics failed to do, it actually made me like the Tony Stark character. But that's my opinion on the matter
    Being a fun superhero movie is alot easier then being a hard hitting psychological drama that also doubles as a fun Summer blockbuster. The script certainly tried harder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legato View Post
    1. It's a superhero film so people need to stop taking them so freaking seriously when it comes to personalities. Superhero characters are nothing more then escapist archetypes.

    2. There have been eccentric celebrities
    But not all rich corporate leaders are eccentric, nor as heroic. Some may prefer old money/land baron icons like Bruce Wayne for their archtype of billionaires. Then there is the more contemporary version, like Tony Stark, who reflects a 20th century success story. The audience have different expectations of the rich elite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquacatlungfish View Post
    Being a fun superhero movie is alot easier then being a hard hitting psychological drama that also doubles as a fun Summer blockbuster. The script certainly tried harder.
    The script of the Dark Knight Rises? It's not the most enthralling script ever written, but at least it pointed the issues that were wrong in Bruce's life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Mask View Post
    But people have criticized both of Marvel and DC of making flat, unrealistic characters.
    So? Which people? I bet it's the kind of people that doesn't like superhero or science fiction films anyway, so who cares about what they think anyway?

    Tony Stark was mostly an amalgamation of Howard Hughes stereotypes with the dashing charm of icons like Errol Flynn. However corporate leaders, especially tech leaders, are not really as eccentric as Robert Downey Jr's portrayal or share Howard Hughes' hypochondriac behaviors.
    Nor are corporate leaders, especially tech leaders likely to put on a suit of armour or Bat-suit to go out and be a superhero.

    What's your point?

    If Wonder Woman does come to the theater...
    I'll believe it when I see it at this point.

    ...what does an Amazon Princess from an isolated island behave?
    How does an Amazon Princess from an isolated island behave?

    I'd say a mix between Kate Middleton, Madonna, and Aragorn.
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