Ultimates #19 Discussion - SPOILERS

[Robbie_Jee]

I still haven't read the issue yet, and I'm not sure if I will. After last issue I promised myself I'd drop the book and just trade wait it instead. But it's nice to know I WAS RIGHT about Scorpio being Fury However I'm surprised I was the only one who seemingly knew that. I thought it would've been pretty obvious to those who have read Ultimate Doomsday. If White-Fury/Scorpio actually turned out NOT to be Black/Our Fury it would have been Humphries' biggest fallacy yet.

Also, on the Hela thing, it kind of annoyed me but also it was something that was started like an issue before Humphries came in so if he did drop it, I don't think that's the worst thing ever. Although, that scene could have taken place inside his own head because even Modi said he was the last Asgardian.

Is Hela actually classed as an Asgardian? I'm not sure.

[TonyStark1012]

By far the best issue since Hickman left. I was worried about the book as I as considering dropping it. I'm still willing to roll with it for now. Also didn't like how Cap came at Tony about the colors of his new armor. Cap doesn't own the rights to the colors Red, White, and Blue. Tony's doing it as a symbol for the country to help get behind. He's trying to unite people just like Cap does. Good start to the new storyline. Looking forward to see where it's headed.

[Fizicks]

Also didn't like how Cap came at Tony about the colors of his new armor. Cap doesn't own the rights to the colors Red, White, and Blue. Tony's doing it as a symbol for the country to help get behind. He's trying to unite people just like Cap does.

"What's the deal with the suit? Don't you think it's a little...tacky?" Says the guy in the star spangled outfit.

[Kurolegacy]

"What's the deal with the suit? Don't you think it's a little...tacky?" Says the guy in the star spangled outfit.

"Hello pot? This is kettle. You're black."

[Morentez]

"Fury is the bad guy again!" - Really? How many times have we been fed this?

Have to say I'm not liking Ultimates any more. It's just not what it used to be in any way for me.

I still don't know what happened to Scott Lang, or who he is in relation to Cassie. Two giant-man/woman Langs?
I'm still feeling pretty excluded by all the "America HOORAH!" and American Football references (which Humphries confirmed on Tumblr he will be running with as they are "a theme as the Ultimates are basically football superstars".
I miss the global aspect of Ultimates that Hickman was bringing in. Having all this focus on the US is getting boring.

Again, I hate being "that guy" who always moans about every issue but lately I've gone from loving Ultimates more than any other comic I buy, to actively putting off reading each issue after I buy it because I'm worried about hating what was my favourite series.

[Wolverine12]

"Fury is the bad guy again!" - Really? How many times have we been fed this?

Have to say I'm not liking Ultimates any more. It's just not what it used to be in any way for me.

I still don't know what happened to Scott Lang, or who he is in relation to Cassie. Two giant-man/woman Langs?
I'm still feeling pretty excluded by all the "America HOORAH!" and American Football references (which Humphries confirmed on Tumblr he will be running with as they are "a theme as the Ultimates are basically football superstars".
I miss the global aspect of Ultimates that Hickman was bringing in. Having all this focus on the US is getting boring.

Again, I hate being "that guy" who always moans about every issue but lately I've gone from loving Ultimates more than any other comic I buy, to actively putting off reading each issue after I buy it because I'm worried about hating what was my favourite series.

You're not alone. Myself and I believe DRZ and Robbie_Jee are right there with you. I'm American and I'm sick of the all the super patriotic stuff. That being said I am a bit interested to see how Cap would deal with politicians, not a problem he can just beat up.

[Balfro]

You're not alone. Myself and I believe DRZ and Robbie_Jee are right there with you. I'm American and I'm sick of the all the super patriotic stuff. That being said I am a bit interested to see how Cap would deal with politicians, not a problem he can just beat up.

Hey. I'm in on this too. Ultimates is crap. This last issue was the best one in a long time but the best piece of crap is still a piece of crap.

[Morentez]

Oh good it's not just me.

If it weren't for how good Brian Wood's Ultimate X-Men was I'd be slightly worried that Marvel was deliberately sh*t-canning the Ultimate line by making it's flagship title a complete dive.

[Wolverine12]

I am a surprised and a bit saddened how many "good" votes this issue received. I will admit it was not Humphries worst issue, but I in no way found this to be anything that I would consider good overall. Are we all content to settle for a mediocre at best comic and call it "good." Maybe I'm just being cynical, I don't know anymore.

[Mutant God]

It is Ultimate Nick Fury but disguised as a white guy that looks exactly like 616 Fury and going under the code name 616's Nick Fury's brother used to use when he was a bad guy.

I FREAKING LOVE IT!!! Best issue Humphries has done on the book.

Aww I was hoping they gave the 616 Fury look to a different character like Bob, Crossbones, Deadpool

[Drz]

I am a surprised and a bit saddened how many "good" votes this issue received. I will admit it was not Humphries worst issue, but I in no way found this to be anything that I would consider good overall.

I voted good because of the art, not to mention outside of the inconsistencies here and there, it was nothing offensively bad. I just fear the worst. I didn't like the "Meh" option, because it's definitely not an Meh issue for me.

[JaggedFel]

"Fury is the bad guy again!" - Really? How many times have we been fed this?

Have to say I'm not liking Ultimates any more. It's just not what it used to be in any way for me.

I still don't know what happened to Scott Lang, or who he is in relation to Cassie. Two giant-man/woman Langs?
I'm still feeling pretty excluded by all the "America HOORAH!" and American Football references (which Humphries confirmed on Tumblr he will be running with as they are "a theme as the Ultimates are basically football superstars".
I miss the global aspect of Ultimates that Hickman was bringing in. Having all this focus on the US is getting boring.

Again, I hate being "that guy" who always moans about every issue but lately I've gone from loving Ultimates more than any other comic I buy, to actively putting off reading each issue after I buy it because I'm worried about hating what was my favourite series.

Oh don't worry as an American I cannot say I enjoy all the "America F*** Yeah" in this. It grates

[Fizicks]

You're not alone. Myself and I believe DRZ and Robbie_Jee are right there with you. I'm American and I'm sick of the all the super patriotic stuff. That being said I am a bit interested to see how Cap would deal with politicians, not a problem he can just beat up.

Aw c'mon man, I thought I made it pretty clear that I find Humphries' Ultimates to be rubbish. Either I wasn't being explicit enough or you forgot about me

[Orbytal]

Getting better.

The scripting has improved, I really liked the Chicago Stock Exchange moment with the Captain.

The art still has me longing for bygone days…

But, I did not see that last page coming and was happy to say I was very surprised!

First time in a long while that I can’t wait till the next issue of the Ultimates

[Wolverine12]

Aw c'mon man, I thought I made it pretty clear that I find Humphries' Ultimates to be rubbish. Either I wasn't being explicit enough or you forgot about me

My bad, I did forget