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    Quote Originally Posted by moonknight11 View Post
    Hunter Zolomon?
    How exactly? I'm not sure he has the oomph to do any damage to Surfer. I guess he could use a speed steal, but I'm not up to date on whether or not that would count as a win or not since he's technically not doing any actual damage.
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    One of those rare situations where one says 'Yes, he has the speed to deal with Surfer, but Norrin's going to soak the hits until he can arena-blast him.'

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    Also can Surfer travel to different dimensions? Specifically, could he escape the Phantom Zone?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Surtur View Post
    Also can Surfer travel to different dimensions? Specifically, could he escape the Phantom Zone?
    He'd struggle to get out of there, it's a notoriously difficult place to escape from even for those with dimensional traversing abilities.

    That said, is there anyone fast enough who wields a Phantom Zone Projector (or anything of the sort) who could tag Surfer? Kryptonians certainly aren't quick enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KJ Stewart View Post
    That said, is there anyone fast enough who wields a Phantom Zone Projector (or anything of the sort) who could tag Surfer? Kryptonians certainly aren't quick enough.
    No, but remember for at least one scenario the OP is allowing the opponent time to activate a non-physical attack before Surfer can react. I guess he could still dodge the beam, but then again with prep Supes could probably widen it.(is there even a beam?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siriel View Post
    Don't be silly.

    The Sliver Surfer's power source is a sea of Slivers. Would you want to go near that?

    I mean, unless your idea of prep is to die.
    How effective would slivers be against Batgrill? I'd imagine it'd just make a bunch of Bat-kebabs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Drunkard Kid View Post
    How effective would slivers be against Batgrill?
    Very. Harmonic Sliver allows them to destroy artifacts.
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    would flash's speedsteal work?

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    Nah, the Sliver Surfer has Shroud.


    Oh wait, you mean against Silver Surfer? Yeah, but that would require Flash to not die horribly to Surfer's opening move, which isn't happening.
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    Not to mention Surfer can use the power cosmic to amp his speed again making that a zero sum move.
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    Heh, Sliver Surfer. Without a doubt one of the, if not the strongst typo character I have seen.

    Nothing beats that.

    As for Silver Surfer, not sure who can do it. He is up there in the food chain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonknight11 View Post
    Hunter Zolomon?
    Nope. I don't recall any indication that Hunter Zolomon has FTL speed or reflex. His power is to slow down time relative to himself. That, of course, begins with a thought. It is established fact that the Surfer can think, move and react at speeds way, way beyond light. And well beyond the ability of someone, otherwise human, to react to.

    Therefore....

    Zoom II gets blitzed before he has an opportunity to react.

    Least that's my synopsis.

    Edit: Speed steal is not an option since Zoom 2 is not a speedster (no access to the speed force).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malevolent1 View Post
    Nope. I don't recall any indication that Hunter Zolomon has FTL speed or reflex. His power is to slow down time relative to himself. That, of course, begins with a thought. It is established fact that the Surfer can think, move and react at speeds way, way beyond light. And well beyond the ability of someone, otherwise human, to react to.

    Therefore....

    Zoom II gets blitzed before he has an opportunity to react.

    Least that's my synopsis.

    Edit: Speed steal is not an option since Zoom 2 is not a speedster (no access to the speed force).
    Zolomon's powers are pretty much on all the time like Wally's.

    So he's got the speed to hang with Surfer, but he doesn't have the damage output.

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    Zoom's powers are sometimes off. There's issues where he gave Wonder Woman a concussion from a punch. I don't know what his current set are. He probably doesn't exist in Nu52 yet.

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    No, they're not.

    His powers aren't to shift himself out of synch with time. He IS out of synch with time. He can just choose to travel alongside time when he wants to.

    But he is never in synch.
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