Lara Croft gets a rapey reboot

[SUPERECWFAN1]

I laughed when you said square and then a sentence later suggested they could make things become less stale.
I know they aren't actually making it and ubisoft will, but still laughed.

I had thought they owned it as a franchise now and all...

[Donald M.]

F.E.A.R. 2

The male protagonist gets raped. Not a rape attempt. Not a grope. Raped.

Where was your outrage then?

More recently, in Far Cry 3 a friend of the main character is implied to have been repeatedly raped and the perpetrator plans the same for the protagonist, never stopping to think prior to his agonizing death that cornering a man who hunts tigers with a knife in a small dark room with your willy out might be a bad idea.

[Donald M.]

Nevermind, not worth it.

[Donald M.]

I had thought they owned it as a franchise now and all...

They do. Eidos owned Tomb Raider and Square now owns Eidos. Ubisoft has never had anything to do with the franchise. That said, Crystal Dynamics are the designers of the game, Square owning them has little bearing on the potential quality.

[Alex]

I had thought they owned it as a franchise now and all...

I messed up on my company names, sorry, they own the company that owns the property, they don't own the company who makes the game though.

[Donald M.]

I messed up on my company names, sorry, they own the company that owns the property, they don't own the company who makes the game though.

Actually, they do. Crystal Dynamics is a wholly owned subsidiary of Eidos.

[Alex]

Actually, they do. Crystal Dynamics is a wholly owned subsidiary of Eidos.

Batting 1000 here.
Ok, how about this.
The people who develop Final Fantasy are not making Tomb Raider.
...
That do it?
Edit: In the same way Squareenix, a japanese company known for turn based rpgs, did not make the last Deus Ex game, a FPS.
I think they did the cut scenes or something, but they didn't make the actual game, because they don't make games like that.

Side note totaly unrelated to this, does any japanese developer make first person shooters?

[Donald M.]

Batting 1000 here.
Ok, how about this.
The people who develop Final Fantasy are not making Tomb Raider.
...
That do it?

And thank goodness for that. Have you played a Final Fantasy game recently?

Lately Square's been really thankful for Eidos because those games are the only ones making them any money.

[Vibranium]

Ive never been a HUGE Tomb Raider fan, but thought the last 2 games were good...I was hoping they would continue that story, but id give this chance

[Simbob4000]

Batting 1000 here.
Ok, how about this.
The people who develop Final Fantasy are not making Tomb Raider.
...
That do it?
Edit: In the same way Squareenix, a japanese company known for turn based rpgs, did not make the last Deus Ex game, a FPS.
I think they did the cut scenes or something, but they didn't make the actual game, because they don't make games like that.

Side note totaly unrelated to this, does any japanese developer make first person shooters?

Not like western developers, they seemed to come out pretty sporadically in that past, and not really at all now. You can play Metal Gear Solid 4 like it's a FPS.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

They do. Eidos owned Tomb Raider and Square now owns Eidos. Ubisoft has never had anything to do with the franchise. That said, Crystal Dynamics are the designers of the game, Square owning them has little bearing on the potential quality.

Ok....

And thank goodness for that. Have you played a Final Fantasy game recently?

Lately Square's been really thankful for Eidos because those games are the only ones making them any money.

Hey now...Final Fantasy 12 was pretty solid. I loved it. I haven't gotten to play 13 and part 2 of it yet. I wonder when we will get FF14 or 15

[Legato]

I'm not saying the recent ones are bad but the last one I've played that I'd say was pretty good was Final Fantasy 7. The rest, while visually stunning, isn't enough to make me want to go out and buy them.

[Xero Kaiser]

I wonder when we will get FF14 or 15

FF14 came out over 2 years ago.

If you haven't heard of it, it's because the game was complete ass.

[Legato]

FF14 came out over 2 years ago.

If you haven't heard of it, it's because the game was complete ass.

I think FF stopped being good when they made sequels to it's sequels, like X-2 or XIII-2. Just completly missed the point.

[Xero Kaiser]

I think FF stopped being good when they made sequels to it's sequels, like X-2 or XIII-2. Just completly missed the point.

Yeah. While I don't necessarily have a problem with a particular FF setting being used more than once (though Ivalice was the only setting I'd personally care about going back to), it seems like SE's only doing it so they can quickly crank out spinoffs/sequels and it shows. People used to go crazy when a new FF was announced, now it's like, "goddamn, another one?"

They really need to step back and let the franchise breathe for a bit.