Just realized - Scarecrows first live action appearance was in Nolans films

[TheDarkNut]

Zsasz in "Batman Begins" seemed to be Zsasz in name only. There was no character development at all, no explanation of why he had tic marks on his body, and the marks weren't even noticeable except in the brief shot where he was emerging from his cell when all the Arkham prisoners were freed. Seemed kind of pointless to include him without at least a little bit more.

So what? Bane in Batman and Robin was in name only as well but it still counts as his movie debut.

[SicSexSix]

When I said he was whipped, I was talking about how he was portrayed in Batman & Robin, not DKR. He followed Poison Ivy like a lost puppy in that. DKR however? I couldn't have asked for more out of Hardy's performance, he took one of my favorite comic book characters & IMO, made him even MORE impressive. Bane's skills in DKR were plenty formidable & he just as easily could've stood against Batman by himself, but you're right, they were both vital factors because their plan had such a wide scope & needed to attack on multiple levels in order to succeed. Alone, it would've been much harder to accomplish for either one of them. So I guess the right question to ask is would he have launched a campaign to destroy Gotham & Bruce if weren't for Talia?

[T Hedge Coke]

I like that Zsasz was "in name only" even though he had everything that makes Zsasz that guy, which is just that he's a crazy killer who hatches scars into his skin to record killings. That's not in name only, that's the actual character. They just don't make a big deal of him.