Batgirl walks, Jason lives....

[batGRRRl4ever]

Believe it or not but I have actually eaten a bat before, though from memory it was roasted and not grilled. Just thought now would be a good a time as any too mention that.

Inquiring minds want to know, does it taste like chicken?

[SicSexSix]

All their butts are black.

[theDarkJAww13]

OPs logic is flawed. Hitler didn't become any less evil because the Jewish people lived on and prospered. Doesn't make Joker any less evil just because his victims lived on. It's the act that matters, not the overall outcome.

[sunofdarkchild]

OPs logic is flawed. Hitler didn't become any less evil because the Jewish people lived on and prospered. Doesn't make Joker any less evil just because his victims lived on. It's the act that matters, not the overall outcome.

The 6 million did not come back to life. Nor have the Jewish people recovered numerically yet. And it isn't about the level of evil.

[The_Greatest_Username]

Does the Joker even know he crippled Batgirl? He obviously knows what he did to Red Hood, but all he knows about shooting Barbara Gordon was that he shot Gordon's daughter.

There's always the option to... you know... not kill the characters in the first place.

It would be an option, but there's always editorial influence whether there's a poll on whether or not to kill Jason Todd or a mandate to kill Phoenix because she blew up a planet.

[Fate's Faith]

I'm not quite sure what that has to do with what I was talking about. I was saying that if every character was left dead we would hardly have any characters left.

Mostly a comment on the fact that its usually a characters people don't like where they find their resurrection to be poorly written. But to your point...

There's always the option to... you know... not kill the characters in the first place.

This is my stance. I tire of seeing characters randomly killed off to serve a story of the time. No matter how well that story is. It doesn't give it impact because we all know if we just wait, someone will reverse it or make a copy of the character. The copying of characters is one thing I dislike. It occurred within the ranks of the JSA a lot. So I do question why kill off a character to build up a story. Maybe make the story stronger itself.

[Godlike13]

Extreely few comics do... Nobody thinks Nightwing is obsolete and should revert back to being Robin whenever that book goes through one of its many mediocre patches. Like now.

Well i wouldn't say nobody, im sure there are people who think that. Hell there was a time that they even came very close to killing him off because a certain somebody thought Nightwing was obsolete. And its not like they didn't get just as complacent with Nightwing, and hell they still are. Thats why he has so many mediocre patches. They don't take any real chances with Nightwing, they don't ever even care enough to put any big talent on his book, the biggest thing they did with Dick in the last 10 or or so years was make him Batman. Its was only then that they took a chance with him, and we saw some innovation.

Didn't I just say that?

Did u? I thought u were saying that Birds Of Prey vol. 2 did something new with Oracle, not that maybe it was going to.

You don't seem to get how comics are made.
If editorial tells everybody Babs is going to be BAtgirl and that Oracle doesn't exist anymore, absolutely nobody is going to be using the character. And nobody is going to change their plans for their books when it turns out this won't be happening after all.

Also, Batman Inc.
She was apparantly going to be a pretty important part of that once writer had had enough time to adjust to the altered situation.

I know how comics are made, and if on an editorial level they are stuck between just either making her Batgirl again or have her continue to just do pretty much the same thing she usually does, then that does not bold well for the character. My problem wasn't that nobody used the character, my problem, or more accurately, my frustration was that they didn't really do anything new with her anymore. Be that because of editorial, doesn't really change anything. If editorial can't see beyond just those two roads, then Oracle was in trouble. Which ultimately lead to her being just Batgirl support, while they were doing something new with pretty much everyone else.

Actually, they did. There was the Internet 2.0 stuff in Batman Inc. and the Death Of Oracle arc in Bird Of Prey you yourself have mentioned.

Again though, the Death Of Oracle arc was not doing something new, that was just putting Oracle back into the cyber shadow. Which was not in anyway something new, thats how Oracle was in the beginning. And ya there was the Internet 2.0 stuff in Batman Inc., but that didn't seem to expand beyond Inc. unfortunately.

[batGRRRl4ever]

The entire point of that character is now moot though as we all now have the internet available literally in the palms of our hands even with voice activation. There was nowhere else for that character to go but down into a truly "Alfred" role, and that's why DC brought back FINALLY our beloved Dominoed Daredoll

[Whip Whirlwind]

I just wish writers made better use of the technology that currently exists today instead of inventing over the top stuff. There's so much more to "best hacker ever" than simple information gathering.

The entire point of that character is now moot though as we all now have the internet available literally in the palms of our hands even with voice activation. There was nowhere else for that character to go but down into a truly "Alfred" role, and that's why DC brought back FINALLY our beloved Dominoed Daredoll

This implies that information technology can ONLY be used for looking things up, which is frankly ridiculous.

[Bluebow]

This is an outrage! Batgrill was my favourite character! Let's protest and send steaks until Batgrill is brought back!

Batgrill is real!!!!!

Is Batgrill a person or perhaps a Bar and Grill belonging to one of the Bat family? of course it could not be the kind of Bar where everbody knows your name, but it might be a place for an interesting night out.

[Fate's Faith]

The entire point of that character is now moot though as we all now have the internet available literally in the palms of our hands even with voice activation. There was nowhere else for that character to go but down into a truly "Alfred" role, and that's why DC brought back FINALLY our beloved Dominoed Daredoll

I would say not even that. She'd me a utility belt device. Right beside the shark repellent was the Oracle call button.