Read this issue again, and I think I'm dropping it for good. This whole "Joker controlled his whole life" is nonsense, and I strongly suspect this is Snyder's idea.
I also can't believe they're sticking such a subpar replacement for Rocafort.
This book is 0/2 for me. Both crossovers and it's just not very good. Decent writing, but I dislike how Jason talks to the reader in the monlogue. Plus that towel fight scene? Man, was that terrible.
Though yeah, I thought the preview pages looked better than normal but in the rest of the issue Green's art still looked just blah.
Back in September I mentioned my displeasure at the 0 issue backup making it appear that Joker had a hand in creating Jason Todd as Robin and that he was watching from the shadows the whole time. At that time I was told that it couldn't possibly be the truth because Joker is an "unreliable narrator" and that I should just hold off my judgement until we had all the facts. Now I see several of you have changed your mind about all of that. Despite my initial misgivings I'm still holding to the belief that Joker is as he always was (an unreliable narrator) and that he's just trying to play mind games with Jason wanting to make him believe that he had a hand in his life as a way to break him. He does have to up his game with Jason in order to push any of his buttons in any case since he's already killed him once.
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Eesh that art. Dunno if I can continue buying with such a steep drop-off in art quality.
I don't see anything that contradicts the unreliable narrator idea here, it would seem to me that the Joker is simply lying to Jason i order to try and mess with him.
I don't have a problem if the Joker it really is involved with Jason's origin. If anything it only mades more outsanding Jason's evolution as character. To paraphrase Hal on BN 'He might let the door open but it was he who choose to enter'.
I would've got this for the Titans, but my lcs was out. As Superboy wasn't with them, I doubt I'l back order.
Pull List; seems to be too long to fit in my sig...
I thought the art was ok. It's obviously nothing compared to Rocafort's, but I can probably live with it. I just want this dumb crossover story to be over. Everything about it feels really forced. The book works much better when it's left to its own devices.
There's nothing to see here.
I felt the same.
I strongly hope Joker was NOT there in the beginning w/Jason. I didn't care for the context of their conversation as opposed to Joker's talks with the other Batfamily before predictably hogtying them. Roy and Kori were so underwhelming this issue with drab conversation too. Was there a Wonder Girl/Batgirl crossover in TT? And Jason talked to them using his phone that Roy bugged? Sloppy footnoting there. Are those Teen Titans they run into at the end?