Will Bishop Ever Be An X-Man Again?

[marvell2100]

Bishop has always been a 'defend the dream by any means necessary' guy, since way before Cyclops tried it on. He thought he was doing the right thing for the greater good.

Emma was a sadistic, selfish woman whose evil deeds were unnecessary and she took actual satisfaction from doing them.

Besides, at the end of the day, they are fictional characters that can be cast in any role the creators desire. Making Bishop a baby killing, genocidal bad guy was what some, certain creators wanted to do at a time. No reason why other creators can't look at that, look at what came before, and decide, nope, I prefer this other version, and craft a story in that mold.

They've done it often enough. No reason why they couldn't do it here.

[magnuskn]

Wow, that's heavy stuff, that. I guess they are really mad at him for trying to kill Hope and killing 16 billion people in the future in order to try and kill Hope. For accuracy, how many people did Bishop kill in that future? I know it was in the billions. I know it was more than Dark Phoenix Jean Grey who racked up 5 billion.

Regarding that, can that future even be averted? As far as I can see, Bishop already *did* cause that holocaust and since Hope survived, it *will* happen. Or is there an out I am not aware of?

[Booshman]

As much as I liked Bishop's character--they basically ruined him in Messiah Complex and in Cable's series following that. Dude crossed the Moral Event Horizon and was written as a Complete Monster. No coming back from that, unless it's a major time traveling, time bending, reality twisting retcon.

Besides, if he did become good again, they'd just kill him off. That new healer kid fills the black male quota in the X-Men now.

Co-signed on the bold times 1000.

[fod_xp]

Regarding that, can that future even be averted? As far as I can see, Bishop already *did* cause that holocaust and since Hope survived, it *will* happen. Or is there an out I am not aware of?

Going by M-Theory, String Theory, and the current hypotheses concerning time travel and alternate realities, it is possible to deviate from reaching that future from the current 616. Because humans cannot perceive the entirety of the 11 dimensions of perception we are unable to manipulate the fabric of Spacetime like Jean Grey did in Here Comes Tomorrow. The best we, or the X-Men in this case can do is live their lives, and it will happen or the current 616 will branch off into another path. Time isn't linear, and moving through space is also moving through time. So that future has already happened, but not to the 616. That future can be averted, but not directly by the X-Men manipulating the time line. It is sort of a probability factor. Just because a future exist does not mean it is "THE END ALL BE ALL FUTURE." It can change.

[marvell2100]

As much as I liked Bishop's character--they basically ruined him in Messiah Complex and in Cable's series following that. Dude crossed the Moral Event Horizon and was written as a Complete Monster. No coming back from that, unless it's a major time traveling, time bending, reality twisting retcon.

Besides, if he did become good again, they'd just kill him off. That new healer kid fills the black male quota in the X-Men now.

Co-signed on the bold times 1000.

Nooooo Man! We gotta break the quota system! !

[remydat]

Going by M-Theory, String Theory, and the current hypotheses concerning time travel and alternate realities, it is possible to deviate from reaching that future from the current 616. Because humans cannot perceive the entirety of the 11 dimensions of perception we are unable to manipulate the fabric of Spacetime like Jean Grey did in Here Comes Tomorrow. The best we, or the X-Men in this case can do is live their lives, and it will happen or the current 616 will branch off into another path. Time isn't linear, and moving through space is also moving through time. So that future has already happened, but not to the 616. That future can be averted, but not directly by the X-Men manipulating the time line. It is sort of a probability factor. Just because a future exist does not mean it is "THE END ALL BE ALL FUTURE." It can change.

Techinically that future does happen though. Even if that future is changed in 616, it always happens just in a different alternate reality. All that happened is that when Cable, Hope and Bishop time traveled, they ended up in a non-616 universe that they perceived to be 616 but was not. Of course, Marvel's time travel is terrible inconsistent so they don't follow pure M-theory.